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Say goodbye to mediocre programmers; ai is around the corner to write your avg crud app. Serverless is going to significantly reduce costs that were needed to

Say goodbye to mediocre programmers; ai is around the corner to write your avg crud app. Serverless is going to significantly reduce costs that were needed to make mvp, prototype and so on. No sane business is going to rely on a single solution hosted by gce or amazon. Yes you can be fearless you can try it and maybe you can succeed but 90% of other businesses will still need to integrate with thousands of components and infrastructure parts. Devops is not going anywhere. In fact the demand will only increase.

awinder 9y ago
I think that's possibility A, and possibility B is that you could see ops and dev diverge into more separated positions with ops focusing on the network border. Or maybe multi dc becomes more tablestakes than it is currently (so: savings from traditional host-intensive staffing goes towards moving goalposts forward). We aren't anywhere near peak efficiencies, peak security, or peak redundancy yet, so we aren't talking about the end of the job, just the end of this job description.
FLUX-YOU 9y ago
>Say goodbye to mediocre programmers; ai is around the corner to write your avg crud app. Oh yes, somehow only terrible and/or very large companies only manage to hang on to very old technologies and projects. I mean, there are virtually no sites using vulnerable frameworks and ancient password storage techniques any more. Those were killed off as they were introduced, and the programmers who did it the old way were sacrificed to some god or another. Mediocrity is apparently the bleeding edge.
- aries1980 9y ago
  AI was around the corner when I learnt LISP and analogue processor arrays 20 years ago. Still not here.
  - linsomniac 9y ago
    That's because they considered AI a nearly solved problem, so the brightest minds stopped working on it. I can't find a reference to that statement, but I recall reading it from someone credible.
    - mee_too 9y ago
      Complete nonsense. I've worked for the Pentagon since the middle 80's, it was and still is by far the biggest consumer of AI. The brightest minds of the 80's just couldn't deliver a working AI system, despite the government investing billions in LISP and Ada projects. The same happened in Japan and Europe, their best CS people failed to deliver the promised Prolog AIs.
quickben 9y ago
I'm missing something. "No sane business is going to rely on a single solution hosted by gce or amazon' Isn't serverless the ultimate lock in?
- takeda 9y ago
  I think that's what he is saying. And yes it is an ultimate lock in. That's what I believe things like lambda are best for creating desired infrastructure, e.g. common ground, so provisioned VMs after bootstrapping might behave the same whether they are in aws, gce or on premises.
count 9y ago
By your categorization, there are a VERY LARGE number of insane businesses.

awinder 9y ago

I think that's possibility A, and possibility B is that you could see ops and dev diverge into more separated positions with ops focusing on the network border. Or maybe multi dc becomes more tablestakes than it is currently (so: savings from traditional host-intensive staffing goes towards moving goalposts forward). We aren't anywhere near peak efficiencies, peak security, or peak redundancy yet, so we aren't talking about the end of the job, just the end of this job description.

FLUX-YOU 9y ago

>Say goodbye to mediocre programmers; ai is around the corner to write your avg crud app. Oh yes, somehow only terrible and/or very large companies only manage to hang on to very old technologies and projects. I mean, there are virtually no sites using vulnerable frameworks and ancient password storage techniques any more. Those were killed off as they were introduced, and the programmers who did it the old way were sacrificed to some god or another. Mediocrity is apparently the bleeding edge.

aries1980 9y ago
AI was around the corner when I learnt LISP and analogue processor arrays 20 years ago. Still not here.
- linsomniac 9y ago
  That's because they considered AI a nearly solved problem, so the brightest minds stopped working on it. I can't find a reference to that statement, but I recall reading it from someone credible.
  - mee_too 9y ago
    Complete nonsense. I've worked for the Pentagon since the middle 80's, it was and still is by far the biggest consumer of AI. The brightest minds of the 80's just couldn't deliver a working AI system, despite the government investing billions in LISP and Ada projects. The same happened in Japan and Europe, their best CS people failed to deliver the promised Prolog AIs.

quickben 9y ago

I'm missing something. "No sane business is going to rely on a single solution hosted by gce or amazon' Isn't serverless the ultimate lock in?

takeda 9y ago
I think that's what he is saying. And yes it is an ultimate lock in. That's what I believe things like lambda are best for creating desired infrastructure, e.g. common ground, so provisioned VMs after bootstrapping might behave the same whether they are in aws, gce or on premises.

count 9y ago

By your categorization, there are a VERY LARGE number of insane businesses.