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Anthony is overrated and a complete psychopath. He doesn't understand it's basic right from wrong. In his mind IP is boundless and his, not Googles. This com
by sanguy 9y ago
Anthony is overrated and a complete psychopath. He doesn't understand it's basic right from wrong. In his mind IP is boundless and his, not Googles. This comes from 5 years of working in fairly close contact. Zero morals. He is what's wrong with Silicon Valley - on equal grounds to Travis from Uber. I can completely see this all being planned for years just like circumventing the iPhone App Store rules. As a Google shareholder I demand they litigate until Uber and Anthony are where they deserve to be; jail.
- DaiPlusPlus 9y agoIf I may ask, what was your working relationship with him?
- virtuabhi 9y agoBut he must be good. $120M+ in compensation.
- kevin_thibedeau 9y agoYep. That's Juicero level money.
- ganoushoreilly 9y agoI'm stealing this as my new expensive / large sum replacement
- toomuchtodo 9y agoMake sure to emphasize at the same time with making motions with your hands like you're squeezing a bag of juice.
- inetknght 9y ago> is what's wrong with Silicon Valley this.
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- wpietri 9y agoThis line of reasoning is how Bernie Madoff stole $18 billion. "Look at how successful he is! He must be a great investor!" One way to look at it is that capitalism basically involves two activities: creating value for others and moving money into your very own pocket. Overall, they're correlated. They have to be, or the system would collapse. But in any specific instance, a rich person may only be good at one of them.
- dboreham 9y agoI'm mentally translating that post into what you really think, when not restrained by legal advice...
- metaphorm 9y agolitigation is a civil complaint not a criminal one. nobody goes to jail for that. you may have some justified reasons for disliking him but you sound unhinged in this comment. get a grip.
- zlatan_is_red 9y agoWell said!
- jtmcmc 9y agoThe current litigation is civil, however, he or uber could be potentially criminally liable as well...
- jonknee 9y agoIf just a portion of what is claimed comes out as true there will be a criminal case as well. This sounds orders of magnitude more serious than what Sergey Aleynikov was claimed to have done to Goldman Sachs and he is about ready to be put in jail.
- xkcd-sucks 9y agoSergey didn't have an equally large gorilla of a company backing him up...
- propman 9y agoIn your assessment, do you believe Anthony created Otto after discussing a buyout with Travis? In other words do you think it's likely that Travis and Anthony had planned all this before? All the evidence points to Anthony being guilty and Uber likely getting an injunction, but if this was all pre-orchestrated I would like to see jail time
- nindalf 9y agoGoogle claims that Lewandowski visited Uber headquarters to discuss a potential buyout. Obviously it's impossible to know what was said there but the following day Lewandowski quit Google, carrying (as Google claims) every single byte of data related to the autonomous car project. I say "Google claims" because they haven't proven anything yet but it seems likely, in my opinion, that what they claim is true.
- sriram_sun 9y ago> Anthony is overrated Maybe. He did this. http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_1332301 http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah.... At least that's what Google tells me :). Given your history with him, do you know how much of this is true? > and a complete psychopath Whoa.. When you say psychopath, I'm translating that to 'ruthless without any morals.' Can you give any examples without giving away other people's personal details? > As a Google shareholder Waymo is suing Uber. Not Google. I don't think Google shareholders can vote their shares in other Alphabet companies.
- linkregister 9y agoGOOG and GOOGL are now shares in Alphabet. [1] We're all GOOG shareholders if we have a 401(k) with a large-cap index fund. As a GOOG shareholder, I want an Android phone that doesn't run out of battery after 8 hours of typical use, but I'm probably not gonna get it. 1. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GOOG?p=^GOOG https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GOOG?p=^GOOG
- havetocharge 9y agoYou might want to try a Pixel phone. I'm on my third generation of Google phones and this one has the best battery life of all.
- stanleydrew 9y agoIt is a great phone, if you can track one down. Google isn't making enough of them it seems. http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/18/14315458/google-pixel-xl-smartphone-shipping-out-of-stock http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/18/14315458/google-pixel-xl-s...
- lovich 9y agoI just ordered an XL last month and got it in 2 weeks. The blue option was out when I went to order, but maybe they got some of the logistics worked out
- dmerfield 9y agoDo you really think he should be in prison for intellectual property infringement?
- kchoudhu 9y agoHis theft (supposedly) amounts to nine figures. The last time something on this magnitude happened was during the financial crisis, and people were (rightly or not) braying for bankers to go to prison. Are you one of these people?
- waqf 9y agoFor nine-figure fraud? What would you propose instead? (It's fraud when you take advantage by ignoring the established legal rules that everyone else is playing by, however suboptimal those rules are.)
- hyperbovine 9y agoExactly. People routinely get jail time for three orders of magnitude less fraud.
- ryandrake 9y agoSomeone went to prison for stealing $31 in candy bars [1]. At least he only got 2 years: he faced life in prison. 1: http://www.nola.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/07/candy_thief_and_habitual_offen.html http://www.nola.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/07/candy_thief_an...
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- mattmanser 9y agoIt's much worse in terms of $$$ compared to most muggings, why shouldn't it be a long term sentence? This is one of the major disconnects in modern society, stealing huge sums of money by rich middle aged white guys is a minor slap on the wrists but stealing a few dollars by young, black guys is let's send them to the slammer and throw away the key. It's so blatant and ingrained in the system that you can't even see it.
- rsp1984 9y agoMy impression from working at Google was that lack of respect for property is unfortunately part of Google's culture. I've met this mindset on many occasions, so this whole lawsuit, as well as the fact that Levandowski was allowed to rise high at the company, doesn't surprise me a bit. It's just that in this case it was one of their own engineers using it against them, for a change.
- andreyf 9y agoAnd when you say "property", you mean "intellectual property", right? Those are some pretty different things, you know ;-)
- rsp1984 9y agoCode, content, project assets, documentation, etc...
- andreyf 9y agoYes. All very different from "car, house, boat".
- rsp1984 9y agoThe meaning of the word "property" extends beyond "car, house, boat".
- andreyf 9y agoSure, but certainly not to code, content, project assets, and documentation. RMS explains the difference and the intention behind the confusion well: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.en.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.en.html
- throwaway90125 9y agoI would love to hear more about this, including any specific examples if you can give them.
- Trundle 9y agoNothing about IP is basic right from wrong. He might have zero morals, you're the one that's worked in close contact with him not me, but it's entirely possible to have a strong moral compass and ethical framework and not care for IP at all.
- xapata 9y agoIn the same way it's possible to have strong ethics and yet be comfortable with "honor killings."
- Trundle 9y agoIn the sense that moral relativism is a thing yes. A big difference being acceptance within modern western culture. I'd assume (hope) there is a minuscule amount of people for honor killings while it appears to me quite common to not give two hoots about IP outside of fear of legal consequences.
- xapata 9y agoWe must hang out with different folks. Everyone I know thinks that an author deserves payment for their work if they wish.
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- seanmcdirmid 9y ago> As a Google shareholder I demand they litigate until Uber and Anthony are where they deserve to be; jail. Litigation is civil, not criminal.
- stanleydrew 9y agoThere may be criminal charges brought though, and Levandowski himself seems to believe there is significant-enough risk of that to assert his fifth amendment right at a recent hearing. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/technology/uber-waymo-levandowski.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/technology/uber-waymo-lev...
- xir78 9y agoI've known him personally, it was clear he'd end up like his hero Gordon Gekko since high school. The saddest part is that he didn't need to, hopefully since he's still young he can redeem him self.