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Should it not be very much dependant on the car? A modern car with new tires can safely go (and stop) much better than a junker from the 70s with no abs, bald t

Should it not be very much dependant on the car? A modern car with new tires can safely go (and stop) much better than a junker from the 70s with no abs, bald tires and no independent suspension.

Neliquat 10y ago
Yup. My car can pull 1.17g on a skidpad, but you pulled me over instead of the SUV that can barely stay in his lane at legal speeds. A classification system seems logical. We already have one, trucks often have seperate limits. Why not one for people with better car, and perhaps a driving skills certification.
- chadgeidel 10y ago
  This makes sense (and I have often advocated for it as well) but I would imagine enforcement would be ridiculous. I'd like to see more license classes than "Car, Car with Motorcycle rider, CDL (over 13 tons), and CDL with Trailer". One could start with a "light weight class" like moped/motorcycle/small car, then have a progressive system for "heavy weight cars" (SUV or pickup truck) or "high HP/Ton cars" (Sports car). These "advanced licenses" would have a higher standard of testing and stiffer penalties if you are driving a car that meets these higher-spec classes.
  - VonGallifrey 10y ago
    We have something like this in Europe. There is a classification between different vehicle types. There is A,A1 for Motorcycles of different sized motors; B,BE for cars below 3.5 tones; C,CE,C1,C1E for "cars" above 3.5 tones and D,DE,D1,D1E for buses. There are also classes like M which are for Motorcycles caped at 25km/h which can be obtained even at 16. All the other ones only for 18 and older.
Markoff 10y ago
agreed, i like Singaporean model where cars older than maybe 10 years are not allowed on the roads, of course even cars allowed on roads should be regularly checked for functionality of brakes, steering, lights, etc.
0xfeba 10y ago
Well, that's for state safety inspections to determine what's the baseline condition for safety. However, not all states have safety inspections.

Should it not be very much dependant on the car? A modern car with new tires can safely go (and stop) much better than a junker from the 70s with no abs, bald tires and no independent suspension.

Neliquat 10y ago

Yup. My car can pull 1.17g on a skidpad, but you pulled me over instead of the SUV that can barely stay in his lane at legal speeds. A classification system seems logical. We already have one, trucks often have seperate limits. Why not one for people with better car, and perhaps a driving skills certification.

chadgeidel 10y ago
This makes sense (and I have often advocated for it as well) but I would imagine enforcement would be ridiculous. I'd like to see more license classes than "Car, Car with Motorcycle rider, CDL (over 13 tons), and CDL with Trailer". One could start with a "light weight class" like moped/motorcycle/small car, then have a progressive system for "heavy weight cars" (SUV or pickup truck) or "high HP/Ton cars" (Sports car). These "advanced licenses" would have a higher standard of testing and stiffer penalties if you are driving a car that meets these higher-spec classes.
- VonGallifrey 10y ago
  We have something like this in Europe. There is a classification between different vehicle types. There is A,A1 for Motorcycles of different sized motors; B,BE for cars below 3.5 tones; C,CE,C1,C1E for "cars" above 3.5 tones and D,DE,D1,D1E for buses. There are also classes like M which are for Motorcycles caped at 25km/h which can be obtained even at 16. All the other ones only for 18 and older.

Markoff 10y ago

agreed, i like Singaporean model where cars older than maybe 10 years are not allowed on the roads, of course even cars allowed on roads should be regularly checked for functionality of brakes, steering, lights, etc.

0xfeba 10y ago

Well, that's for state safety inspections to determine what's the baseline condition for safety. However, not all states have safety inspections.