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That sounds great, but one of the common rebuttals is that the job market (remote or otherwise) may be more challenging outside of the Bay Area.
by baddox 10y ago
That sounds great, but one of the common rebuttals is that the job market (remote or otherwise) may be more challenging outside of the Bay Area.
- nosequel 10y agoAs a full time work-from-home person for the past 8 years I'd love for that to continue to be most people's assumption. :)
- freyr 10y agoWhat good is a "hot job market" that can't keep up with the housing market or cover the costs of raising a family?
- metaphorm 10y agoits "good" for chewing up and spitting out 22-29 year olds. and people wonder why so many Silicon Valley tech firms have problems with "bro culture".
- arebop 10y agoTreading water in a tech job in the bay area is kind of like being in a "normal" job (such as architect, as in buildings not software) any where else, except you don't have to worry about layoffs or a tyrannical boss because you can always just get another job. Sure it would be great to have both a high income (relative to local costs) and a job you love and plenty of other options, but if one must choose... I choose to trade away the upper-middle-class lifestyle in order to have enjoyable and impactful work in my chosen field of software engineering.
- matwood 10y agoKeep in mind there is a huge sliding scale between the job market in SF and BFE.
- phkahler 10y ago>> That sounds great, but one of the common rebuttals is that the job market (remote or otherwise) may be more challenging outside of the Bay Area. It amazes me how many people in tech can't do simple math. Hint: The Detroit area job market is on fire, but you will pass it over if your idea of compensation doesn't take into account cost of living. I'm sure there are several other cities that can say the same.
- kmonsen 10y agoI'm not an expert, but from my experience this is not true. If you do well in Bay Area (lets say ~500k total comp) it will be hard to match that in another area even including cost of living.
- ajmurmann 10y agoHow do you get to that level of compensation? Are you just referring to "luck" with stock or cash salary? If it's not stock what skills pay that much?
- 086421357909764 10y agoIt's also a very small subset of people that get those style offers. Every CS student I talk to thinks they're going to make the google prime salary, when the reality is they're not likely to make the cut as an average developer let alone the "silicon valley rock star". It's really a dis-service to the reality for most entry level and young developers. Additionally these crazy bootcamps aren't helping with their take a 12 week class get a job at google stories.
- freyr 10y agoStaff engineer at Google, most likely, but possibly Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft. In any case, somebody who thinks this represents a significant slice of the Silicon Valley workforce is living in a bubble. For every engineer making >$500k, there are many thousands making <$200k, at the thousands of other tech companies in the Bay Area that aren't Google/Amazon/Facebook/Apple. While the $500k engineer has every incentive to stay in SV, that has no bearing on the vast majority of engineers.
- jjtheblunt 10y agoThat rebuttal is resoundingly false, though there is unspeakably great vested interest in perpetuating that myth, it seems.
- sidlls 10y agoUnless you enjoy sweatshop programming in the gaming or defense (simulations) industry, where actual software engineering is done in spite of the companies' best efforts, software work in that area of Florida has almost no resemblance to software work in the Bay Area.