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If you set up a server to respond to only people you choose, it's on you to make sure it's only people you choose that use it. Then you can make any restriction

If you set up a server to respond to only people you choose, it's on you to make sure it's only people you choose that use it. Then you can make any restrictions you want and invalidate access for anyone who goes against your rules

Spooky23 9y ago
So I can brute force your laptop in a coffee shop and steal your shit, because you didn't stop me? The lengths people will go to justify Uber is amazing.
__jal 9y ago
So otherwise it is wild-west, no legal recourse, right? Do you really believe that?
RegEx 9y ago
In other words, every hack is legal?
- superkuh 9y ago
  If you believe accessing a URL manually, incrementing a number in a URL, or using wget is a hack, yes. At least you'd be in agreement with the US Dept. of Justice in that. The web is open. If you put your a chair out in a public square with a sign on that back that says, "Only paying members can sit." don't be surprised when someone random sits in it.
  - zaphar 9y ago
    This puts words in the mouth of the poster that the poster didn't say. The Lyft API is authenticated so it's definitely not like accessing a URL manually, using wget, or or incrementing a number. You have to sign up, get an account and then you can use it. A better analogy would putting your chair in a private room with a locked door and sign on the door that says ask management for access to the chair. Anyone who breaks in to use that chair definitely knows they aren't supposed to be there.
- Dylan16807 9y ago
  If they break a security measure, it's a hack. If there was deliberately no security, it's not a hack.
venture_lol 9y ago
So if you forgot to lock your front door, everyone can walk into your house and help themselves to your properties?
- mdpopescu 9y ago
  Quoting @zaphar: > The Lyft API is authenticated In other words, the door was locked and you gave the key to a guy, who then peed on the carpet. While that was impolite, he was definitely not guilty of breaking and entering.
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  - memmcgee 9y ago
    If you gave the key to a guy so they could watch your dog, they're still guilty of theft if they steal your stuff. Also did Lyft know they were giving the key to Uber? If someone impersonates your dog sitter to get the key to your house, they still did not have permission to enter your house so it's still breaking and entering.

Spooky23 9y ago

So I can brute force your laptop in a coffee shop and steal your shit, because you didn't stop me? The lengths people will go to justify Uber is amazing.

__jal 9y ago

So otherwise it is wild-west, no legal recourse, right? Do you really believe that?

RegEx 9y ago

In other words, every hack is legal?

superkuh 9y ago
If you believe accessing a URL manually, incrementing a number in a URL, or using wget is a hack, yes. At least you'd be in agreement with the US Dept. of Justice in that. The web is open. If you put your a chair out in a public square with a sign on that back that says, "Only paying members can sit." don't be surprised when someone random sits in it.
- zaphar 9y ago
  This puts words in the mouth of the poster that the poster didn't say. The Lyft API is authenticated so it's definitely not like accessing a URL manually, using wget, or or incrementing a number. You have to sign up, get an account and then you can use it. A better analogy would putting your chair in a private room with a locked door and sign on the door that says ask management for access to the chair. Anyone who breaks in to use that chair definitely knows they aren't supposed to be there.
Dylan16807 9y ago
If they break a security measure, it's a hack. If there was deliberately no security, it's not a hack.

venture_lol 9y ago

So if you forgot to lock your front door, everyone can walk into your house and help themselves to your properties?

mdpopescu 9y ago
Quoting @zaphar: > The Lyft API is authenticated In other words, the door was locked and you gave the key to a guy, who then peed on the carpet. While that was impolite, he was definitely not guilty of breaking and entering.
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- memmcgee 9y ago
  If you gave the key to a guy so they could watch your dog, they're still guilty of theft if they steal your stuff. Also did Lyft know they were giving the key to Uber? If someone impersonates your dog sitter to get the key to your house, they still did not have permission to enter your house so it's still breaking and entering.