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"Devuan can be adopted as a flawless upgrade path from both Debian Wheezy and Jessie." That is nice, to have a supported path of simply add sources, signing ke
by e12e 10y ago
"Devuan can be adopted as a flawless upgrade path from both Debian
Wheezy and Jessie."
That is nice, to have a supported path of simply add sources, signing keys and apt-get dist-upgrade. Impressive work.
I'm personally not convinced there's a viable near future for Linux without systemd (not counting the mess that is android (as a potential workstation / server distro) - I think Debian/kFreeBSD is a better path.
But I'd love to be wrong.
- Mediterraneo10 10y ago> I think Debian/kFreeBSD is a better path. Is there an assumption that once Debian decided to go with systemd and an increasing amount of Debian standard software depended on it, the kFreeBSD port will have to be given up at some point?
- e12e 10y agoWell, that's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it, is that when "all of Linux" went with systemd, there'd be little real interest and help upstream in various packages to port to "linux-without-systemd" - but as long as open Solaris (by any name), free-, net- and openbsd exist - there's likely to be some help with porting to a world without systemd.
- petre 10y agoWhat makes is so hard to write init scripts or run scripts or unit files for a daemon? Of course, when you irreversibly mess things up by adding a hard dbus dependency, integrate udev in the init system, put systemd-resolved on 127.0.0.53 everywhere plus tons of other mess, then of course it's hard to "port" everything because you messed everything up so badly that it only works with your init system now.
- e12e 10y agoYeah, it's not the init scripts that are a problem, it's everything else, like keeping gnome working without logind etc.