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Less than 5% of Indian engineering students are fit for techie jobs, study finds

26 points by vmalu 10y ago

Flammy 10y ago
> It says over 36,000 engineering students from IT-related departments of more than 500 colleges took an automated test using machine learning. "using machine learning" --- what does that even mean? The test was designed with ML? What? > Two-thirds of the tested students could not even write code that compiles Did they get to choose what framework to use when responding to this question? Did they get to test their code? My intro to CS course in college had us handwrite code for tests, so guess what, I bet 95% of student's code wouldn't compile due to an occasional missed character or incorrect capital letter. Is this a similar situation? This whole article needs a lot more detail around how this test was administered and what a borderline 'fail' looks like.
- paulddraper 10y ago
  And as rectang points out, what is the baseline? I.e. how does this pass rate compare to engineering students generally?
- maw 10y ago
  Probably "using machine learning" means a test administered with and graded by computers.
rectang 10y ago
The big question which goes unanswered in this article: How would students from other countries (especially the USA) have fared when taking this test?
threatofrain 10y ago
Bigger discussion => https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14156547 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14156547
anovikov 10y ago
As if it was a big secret.
jnty 10y ago
Disgustingly irresponsible reporting. All this will do is encourage racial discrimination in hiring.
- darkstar999 10y ago
  Or maybe it will encourage higher caliber education.
diego_moita 10y ago
There are about 1.5 million engineering graduates in India per year. Assuming this research can be trusted, 5% of them means 75 000 new "good engineers" per year. That is still a big number.
manish7 9y ago
I think read once. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/indian-developers-good-india-when-reach-usa-become-google-pratap https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/indian-developers-good-india-...

26 points by vmalu 10y ago

> It says over 36,000 engineering students from IT-related departments of more than 500 colleges took an automated test using machine learning. "using machine learning" --- what does that even mean? The test was designed with ML? What? > Two-thirds of the tested students could not even write code that compiles Did they get to choose what framework to use when responding to this question? Did they get to test their code? My intro to CS course in college had us handwrite code for tests, so guess what, I bet 95% of student's code wouldn't compile due to an occasional missed character or incorrect capital letter. Is this a similar situation? This whole article needs a lot more detail around how this test was administered and what a borderline 'fail' looks like.

paulddraper 10y ago
And as rectang points out, what is the baseline? I.e. how does this pass rate compare to engineering students generally?
maw 10y ago
Probably "using machine learning" means a test administered with and graded by computers.

rectang 10y ago

The big question which goes unanswered in this article: How would students from other countries (especially the USA) have fared when taking this test?

threatofrain 10y ago

Bigger discussion => https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14156547 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14156547

anovikov 10y ago

As if it was a big secret.

jnty 10y ago

Disgustingly irresponsible reporting. All this will do is encourage racial discrimination in hiring.

darkstar999 10y ago
Or maybe it will encourage higher caliber education.

diego_moita 10y ago

There are about 1.5 million engineering graduates in India per year. Assuming this research can be trusted, 5% of them means 75 000 new "good engineers" per year. That is still a big number.

manish7 9y ago

I think read once. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/indian-developers-good-india-when-reach-usa-become-google-pratap https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/indian-developers-good-india-...