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After I watched Forks Over Knives on Netflix it took me about 2 years to become 100% plant based, but I've been doing it now for over a year and I can guarantee

by regnum 9y ago

After I watched Forks Over Knives on Netflix it took me about 2 years to become 100% plant based, but I've been doing it now for over a year and I can guarantee you I'll never go back. I work in an industry where I see the side effects of the Standard American Diet, and if you saw the health effects I see you'd switch too. Here in Austin we have several monthly potlucks based upon the Plant Pure Nation pods idea, which makes it easier to find like minded people and new recipes. Also, Facebook groups like McDougall Friends is great for support, if you need it.

jp555 9y ago
If emergency room doctors made laws, motorcycles would be illegal. We're all susceptible to being deluded by our naive realism. Like how I think anyone driving faster than me is a maniac and anyone driving slower is a moron. The objective reality is that everybody thinks that.
- kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
  Or perhaps they'd be subsidized as it brings them business :P
  - Neliquat 9y ago
    I wish. The insurance on my R1 outweighs my other bikes and cars, combined. And I honestly can't blame them. That thing is breathtakingly fast.
- f000g00b00gar 9y ago
  Naive is eating animals and then complaining about our species' extinction as a result of climate change. The two are exorbitantly linked - global warming and killing animals.
- deegles 9y ago
  This study found that 70% of drivers think they're "above average": http://www.theaa.ie/blog/70-of-drivers-rate-themselves-as-above-average/ http://www.theaa.ie/blog/70-of-drivers-rate-themselves-as-ab...
  - antisthenes 9y ago
    So 71% of the predictors are actually correct.
- JeremyBanks 9y ago
  That actually seems like a pretty good metaphor, because the motorcycle is probably only legal due to historical inertia, not modern analysis. If the motorcycle were invented today, do you think it would ever be legal? In America, perhaps, but probably not in countries that are more heavy-handed with regulation and bear the costs of public healthcare. It's an insane and dangerous vehicle. I have several friends who have survived nasty car crashes and fully recovered. The only one who had a nasty motorcycle accident... well, his heart's still beating, but I'd hardly call it life.
  - njharman 9y ago
    Cars are the dangerous thing on road. Banning them would eliminate half of all motorcycle accidents, cite below. Idiots riding without helmets and being intoxicated greatly skew the fatality statistics. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_safety https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_safety Findings from motorcycle safety study. 75% of accidents were found to involve a motorcycle and a passenger vehicle. Almost half of the fatal accidents show alcohol involvement. In the multiple vehicle accidents, the driver of the other vehicle violated the motorcycle right-of-way and caused the accident in two-thirds of those accidents. The report's additional findings show that the wearing of appropriate gear, specifically, helmets and durable garment, mitigates crash injuries substantially The failure of motorists to detect and recognize motorcycles in traffic is the predominating cause of motorcycle accidents.
    - JeremyBanks 9y ago
      > Per vehicle mile traveled, motorcyclists' risk of a fatal crash is 35 times greater than a passenger car. Wow, that's even worse than I expected, relative to a baseline that isn't very safe to begin with. It's unconscionable to keep these on the road.
      - AstralStorm 9y ago
        You meant cars of course, as they cause 75% of those accidents? (And others, often involving pedestrians.) I'd expect most of the accidents caused by motorcyclists to involve excessive speed.
- regnum 9y ago
  I'm open-minded, but I'll always go with the data. As Dr. Kim Williams the president of the American College of Cardiology said "There are two kinds of cardiologists: vegans and those who haven’t read the data."
- jdietrich 9y ago
  >If emergency room doctors made laws, motorcycles would be illegal. From a completely callous perspective, we'd miss all the healthy young organs that enter the donor pool. They don't call them "donorcycles" for nothing.
welpwelp 9y ago
Me and my friends also go to McDonald's Friends, where we regularly enjoy Big Mac eating contests. Maybe we'll meet there someday.
intopieces 9y ago
Austin is also home to two of the most delicious vegetarian burgers: Arlo's and Hopdoddy. Haven't found any that compare and I try one every time I see it on the menu.
riffraff 9y ago
> I can guarantee you I'll never go back [...] if you saw the health effects I see you'd switch too TFA has this: > health can be an effective “foot in the door” approach to increasing the number of vegetarians and vegans, but often not enough to keep people animal-free for the long-term. I'm pretty sure most of the people who switched back felt like you do now. "Ever" is a long time.
Reason077 9y ago
I've been considering going vegan after seeing "Raw": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4954522/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4954522/
- summarite 9y ago
  What stops you from trying?
nightski 9y ago
I'm actually leaning towards the fact that all the starchy carbs vegans/vegetarians typically consume are far more harmful to health than meat. Just look at all of the amazing results coming out regarding a low carb diet and the positive health effects (consuming meat or not).
- regnum 9y ago
  The amazing results coming out of a low carb diet? Just look at the recent news of The Biggest Loser trainer Bob Harper's heart attack. That's what low-carb will get you. Watch Forks Over Knives. Read The Starch Solution by Dr. McDougall. Look at any data not funded by the meat, dairy, and egg industries. It all points to the opposite of the popularized myth that starches are bad. I wish you the best of health!
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by regnum 9y ago

jp555 9y ago

If emergency room doctors made laws, motorcycles would be illegal. We're all susceptible to being deluded by our naive realism. Like how I think anyone driving faster than me is a maniac and anyone driving slower is a moron. The objective reality is that everybody thinks that.

kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
Or perhaps they'd be subsidized as it brings them business :P
- Neliquat 9y ago
  I wish. The insurance on my R1 outweighs my other bikes and cars, combined. And I honestly can't blame them. That thing is breathtakingly fast.
f000g00b00gar 9y ago
Naive is eating animals and then complaining about our species' extinction as a result of climate change. The two are exorbitantly linked - global warming and killing animals.
deegles 9y ago
This study found that 70% of drivers think they're "above average": http://www.theaa.ie/blog/70-of-drivers-rate-themselves-as-above-average/ http://www.theaa.ie/blog/70-of-drivers-rate-themselves-as-ab...
- antisthenes 9y ago
  So 71% of the predictors are actually correct.
JeremyBanks 9y ago
That actually seems like a pretty good metaphor, because the motorcycle is probably only legal due to historical inertia, not modern analysis. If the motorcycle were invented today, do you think it would ever be legal? In America, perhaps, but probably not in countries that are more heavy-handed with regulation and bear the costs of public healthcare. It's an insane and dangerous vehicle. I have several friends who have survived nasty car crashes and fully recovered. The only one who had a nasty motorcycle accident... well, his heart's still beating, but I'd hardly call it life.
- njharman 9y ago
  Cars are the dangerous thing on road. Banning them would eliminate half of all motorcycle accidents, cite below. Idiots riding without helmets and being intoxicated greatly skew the fatality statistics. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_safety https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_safety Findings from motorcycle safety study. 75% of accidents were found to involve a motorcycle and a passenger vehicle. Almost half of the fatal accidents show alcohol involvement. In the multiple vehicle accidents, the driver of the other vehicle violated the motorcycle right-of-way and caused the accident in two-thirds of those accidents. The report's additional findings show that the wearing of appropriate gear, specifically, helmets and durable garment, mitigates crash injuries substantially The failure of motorists to detect and recognize motorcycles in traffic is the predominating cause of motorcycle accidents.
  - JeremyBanks 9y ago
    > Per vehicle mile traveled, motorcyclists' risk of a fatal crash is 35 times greater than a passenger car. Wow, that's even worse than I expected, relative to a baseline that isn't very safe to begin with. It's unconscionable to keep these on the road.
    - AstralStorm 9y ago
      You meant cars of course, as they cause 75% of those accidents? (And others, often involving pedestrians.) I'd expect most of the accidents caused by motorcyclists to involve excessive speed.
regnum 9y ago
I'm open-minded, but I'll always go with the data. As Dr. Kim Williams the president of the American College of Cardiology said "There are two kinds of cardiologists: vegans and those who haven’t read the data."
jdietrich 9y ago
>If emergency room doctors made laws, motorcycles would be illegal. From a completely callous perspective, we'd miss all the healthy young organs that enter the donor pool. They don't call them "donorcycles" for nothing.

welpwelp 9y ago

Me and my friends also go to McDonald's Friends, where we regularly enjoy Big Mac eating contests. Maybe we'll meet there someday.

intopieces 9y ago

Austin is also home to two of the most delicious vegetarian burgers: Arlo's and Hopdoddy. Haven't found any that compare and I try one every time I see it on the menu.

riffraff 9y ago

> I can guarantee you I'll never go back [...] if you saw the health effects I see you'd switch too TFA has this: > health can be an effective “foot in the door” approach to increasing the number of vegetarians and vegans, but often not enough to keep people animal-free for the long-term. I'm pretty sure most of the people who switched back felt like you do now. "Ever" is a long time.

Reason077 9y ago

I've been considering going vegan after seeing "Raw": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4954522/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4954522/

summarite 9y ago
What stops you from trying?

nightski 9y ago

I'm actually leaning towards the fact that all the starchy carbs vegans/vegetarians typically consume are far more harmful to health than meat. Just look at all of the amazing results coming out regarding a low carb diet and the positive health effects (consuming meat or not).

regnum 9y ago
The amazing results coming out of a low carb diet? Just look at the recent news of The Biggest Loser trainer Bob Harper's heart attack. That's what low-carb will get you. Watch Forks Over Knives. Read The Starch Solution by Dr. McDougall. Look at any data not funded by the meat, dairy, and egg industries. It all points to the opposite of the popularized myth that starches are bad. I wish you the best of health!
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