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The iPhone has never had the competitive advantage based on it’s feature count.

by george_morgan 16y ago

crocowhile 16y ago
It's not matter of features count. It's matter of innovative features. Hardly anything innovative in this product.
- Daishiman 16y ago
  Why is the parent being downvoted? It's true! This are just evolutionary improvements for some things and playing catch-up with others. Doesn't stop it from being a great product, but it's not the aweomest thing Steve wants you to believe.
  - jodrellblank 16y ago
    In what way isn't it awesome? It's faster, smaller, brighter, screenier, cameraier, videoier, batterier, storagier, more sensor laden, better looking, and runs better more useful software. I agree that it's not spouting a coffee filter and electric razor, but strongly disagree that you can step to "not innovative" "meh, useless catchup". One part of not being measured at features/$ checklist is not being measured at -$ per lack of never seen before feature. You've seen the Netflix announcement, now take a look at this: http://lonelysandwich.com/post/662129889/ipad-tv http://lonelysandwich.com/post/662129889/ipad-tv 1 day ago that was posted, today we have a HD camera, iMovie and videophone announcement on a device with an upgraded screen, and talk of working with carriers for videophoning (i.e. transmitting video over the cellular networks). This "no innovation" device might not need a USB hoover attachment to be a cornerstone piece for turning another major industry upside down in a way that others could not mostly by virtue of lots of integration, evolutionary changes and a pleasant enough UI that people wont resist.
    - Daishiman 16y ago
      > In what way isn't it awesome? It's faster, smaller, brighter, screenier, cameraier, videoier, batterier, storagier, more sensor laden, better looking, and runs better more useful software. It's about on par on quality as the HTC Evo or Droid Incredible, which is great, but not astoundingly spectacular in my opinion. And as we all know, two months from now HTC will probably be releasing some newer and better. It's a competitive product, but in my eyes it's comparable to what's already out there, improving in the same way other products do when they're released (screen resolution, thickness, etc). It's just not worthy of getting your panties in a bunch, and certainly not worthy of migrating to it from a n Incredible, Evo, or Desire. Just not enough advantages to make it worth it.
    - crocowhile 16y ago
      It's better than iphone 3GS but this is not surprising. Hardware wise is catching up with some older HTC models for some features or lagging behind the newest models. High resolution display being the only thing really better than any other phones out there. If the fight is on software, I put my money on android: big time! Android is quicker at introducing new OS features because it's open source. I am thinking wifi tethering, customization beyond folders, web integration... and it offers a more competitive and free app market.
mlinsey 16y ago
Really? The original iPhone had a competitive advantage based on a "real" webkit-based browser, visual voicemail, a large multitouch display, on-screen keyboard with good auto-correction...etc, etc. What smartphones had those features before the iPhone? Those features are why I picked the iPhone as my first smartphone. Other features are making me strongly consider switching to an Android phone. I know the mantra here is "design is everything, feature count is unimportant", but I think that is an oversimplification. Design (really, usability) is more important than features, but once two products are roughly as usable, well-implemented features make a big difference. Clearly, Apple thinks that these features are important, otherwise it wouldn't be choosing to showcase them.
- rimantas 16y ago
  The original iPhone had a competitive advantage based on a "real" webkit-based browser, visual voicemail, a large multitouch display, on-screen keyboard with good auto-correction...etc, etc Funny, but most of those were dismissed by naysayers when iPhone was introduced. The capabilities of Mobile Safari were mostly ignored ("I've my Opera Mini/Mobile"), multitouch ("Apple did not invent multitouch!" — and conveniently not mentioning that iPhone had capacitive multitouch), and no physical keyboard was presented as a huge flaw.

The iPhone has never had the competitive advantage based on it’s feature count.

crocowhile 16y ago

It's not matter of features count. It's matter of innovative features. Hardly anything innovative in this product.

Daishiman 16y ago
Why is the parent being downvoted? It's true! This are just evolutionary improvements for some things and playing catch-up with others. Doesn't stop it from being a great product, but it's not the aweomest thing Steve wants you to believe.
- jodrellblank 16y ago
  In what way isn't it awesome? It's faster, smaller, brighter, screenier, cameraier, videoier, batterier, storagier, more sensor laden, better looking, and runs better more useful software. I agree that it's not spouting a coffee filter and electric razor, but strongly disagree that you can step to "not innovative" "meh, useless catchup". One part of not being measured at features/$ checklist is not being measured at -$ per lack of never seen before feature. You've seen the Netflix announcement, now take a look at this: http://lonelysandwich.com/post/662129889/ipad-tv http://lonelysandwich.com/post/662129889/ipad-tv 1 day ago that was posted, today we have a HD camera, iMovie and videophone announcement on a device with an upgraded screen, and talk of working with carriers for videophoning (i.e. transmitting video over the cellular networks). This "no innovation" device might not need a USB hoover attachment to be a cornerstone piece for turning another major industry upside down in a way that others could not mostly by virtue of lots of integration, evolutionary changes and a pleasant enough UI that people wont resist.
  - Daishiman 16y ago
    > In what way isn't it awesome? It's faster, smaller, brighter, screenier, cameraier, videoier, batterier, storagier, more sensor laden, better looking, and runs better more useful software. It's about on par on quality as the HTC Evo or Droid Incredible, which is great, but not astoundingly spectacular in my opinion. And as we all know, two months from now HTC will probably be releasing some newer and better. It's a competitive product, but in my eyes it's comparable to what's already out there, improving in the same way other products do when they're released (screen resolution, thickness, etc). It's just not worthy of getting your panties in a bunch, and certainly not worthy of migrating to it from a n Incredible, Evo, or Desire. Just not enough advantages to make it worth it.
  - crocowhile 16y ago
    It's better than iphone 3GS but this is not surprising. Hardware wise is catching up with some older HTC models for some features or lagging behind the newest models. High resolution display being the only thing really better than any other phones out there. If the fight is on software, I put my money on android: big time! Android is quicker at introducing new OS features because it's open source. I am thinking wifi tethering, customization beyond folders, web integration... and it offers a more competitive and free app market.

mlinsey 16y ago

Really? The original iPhone had a competitive advantage based on a "real" webkit-based browser, visual voicemail, a large multitouch display, on-screen keyboard with good auto-correction...etc, etc. What smartphones had those features before the iPhone? Those features are why I picked the iPhone as my first smartphone. Other features are making me strongly consider switching to an Android phone. I know the mantra here is "design is everything, feature count is unimportant", but I think that is an oversimplification. Design (really, usability) is more important than features, but once two products are roughly as usable, well-implemented features make a big difference. Clearly, Apple thinks that these features are important, otherwise it wouldn't be choosing to showcase them.

rimantas 16y ago
The original iPhone had a competitive advantage based on a "real" webkit-based browser, visual voicemail, a large multitouch display, on-screen keyboard with good auto-correction...etc, etc Funny, but most of those were dismissed by naysayers when iPhone was introduced. The capabilities of Mobile Safari were mostly ignored ("I've my Opera Mini/Mobile"), multitouch ("Apple did not invent multitouch!" — and conveniently not mentioning that iPhone had capacitive multitouch), and no physical keyboard was presented as a huge flaw.