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LA is so ugly compared with SF.

by justinzollars 10y ago

nether 10y ago
That's what I like about LA. Keeps out the superficial people, and draws those who can see past appearances.
- bitskits 10y ago
  California native here. This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say this about LA. Most generalizations usually go the other way; this is new. To be clear, all the generalizations are bad, IMO, but this perspective is new, and I think maybe the least accurate.
  - StavrosK 10y ago
    I think you mean rationalization. It was pretty egregious, though, yes.
  - johncolanduoni 10y ago
    Pretty sure it's a joke ;)
  - seanmcdirmid 10y ago
    Generalizations are usually considered good when we are talking about code. But ya, LA is the definition of superficial.
- cylinder 10y ago
  This is the first I've heard about LA not having superficial people.
Inconel 10y ago
As someone who grew up mostly in SF/Oak and now lives in LA, I'm not sure I'd agree. They both have some truly beautiful areas but large parts of SF aren't particularly aesthetically pleasing, at least to me. I grew up mostly in the sunset and I found it fairly drab.
DonHopkins 10y ago
Q: How many Northern Californians does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Hella! Q: How many Southern Californians does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Totally! Hella Nor Cal or Totally So Cal? The Perceptual Dialectology of California [1] "This study provides the first detailed account of perceptual dialectology within California (as well as one of the first accounts of perceptual dialectology within any single state). Quantitative analysis of a map-labeling task carried out in Southern California reveals that California's most salient linguistic boundary is between the northern and southern regions of the state. Whereas studies of the perceptual dialectology of the United States as a whole have focused almost exclusively on regional dialect differences, respondents associated particular regions of California less with distinctive dialects than with differences in language (English versus Spanish), slang use, and social groups. The diverse sociolinguistic situation of California is reflected in the emphasis both on highly salient social groups thought to be stereotypical of California by residents and nonresidents alike (e.g., surfers) and on groups that, though prominent in the cultural landscape of the state, remain largely unrecognized by outsiders (e.g., hicks)." Extra credit question: Can you locate the isogloss [2] designating the "101" / "The 101" line? [3] [1] http://stanford.edu/class/linguist159/restricted/readings/BucholtzBermudezFungEdwardsVargas2007-JEL.pdf http://stanford.edu/class/linguist159/restricted/readings/Bu... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isogloss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isogloss [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4347ZE0NQM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4347ZE0NQM
Veratyr 10y ago
As a foreigner who's been to both, I'd say LA is a little better. There seems to be less urine in the streets. If you're talking about pure visual aesthetics, I'd also say LA wins, just by a little and primarily because of Santa Monica. In the grand scheme of things though, I don't think either rank very high, even among American cities. Chicago and New York have far nicer architecture.
- seanmcdirmid 10y ago
  Santa Monica isn't LA, like San Jose isn't SF. And anyways, Seattle and even Portland beat both of them.
  - Inconel 10y ago
    I would argue that Santa Monica is much closer to LA in proximity and culture that SJ is to SF.
    - seanmcdirmid 10y ago
      Sure, SF is a much smaller city area wise than LA. There is a lot in between SF and SJ, Santa Monica borders LA.
    - HillaryBriss 10y ago
      FWIW, I see Santa Monica as being more akin to Berkeley, or even San Francisco, than to LA. To me, Santa Monica's politics seem much more engaging, idealistic and left-leaning than those of LA. Santa Monica is also much wealthier, on average, than LA. Because of its greater wealth (or its idealism, you decide) Santa Monica seems to be a better run city with what appear to be better maintained streets and public facilities. It's the kind of city LA residents like to escape to from time to time, if they can afford it. It's perhaps relevant that Stephen Miller, an influential element of the Trump administration, forged his identity as a reactionary provocateur in the politically correct crucible of Santa Monica High School. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-advisor-stephen-miller-booed-stage-high-school-article-1.2973670 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-advisor-steph... Just my 2 cents ...
tomwilson 10y ago
Its ugly compared to most places tbh.
mixmastamyk 10y ago
More of it was built pre-automobile. There are nice neighborhoods in LA but you'll find the rest looking much like Silicon Valley.
parshimers 10y ago
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
- HillaryBriss 10y ago
  dude
majormajor 10y ago
Please stop moving down here and importing your $3K+ rents, kthx then.

LA is so ugly compared with SF.

nether 10y ago

That's what I like about LA. Keeps out the superficial people, and draws those who can see past appearances.

bitskits 10y ago
California native here. This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say this about LA. Most generalizations usually go the other way; this is new. To be clear, all the generalizations are bad, IMO, but this perspective is new, and I think maybe the least accurate.
- StavrosK 10y ago
  I think you mean rationalization. It was pretty egregious, though, yes.
- johncolanduoni 10y ago
  Pretty sure it's a joke ;)
- seanmcdirmid 10y ago
  Generalizations are usually considered good when we are talking about code. But ya, LA is the definition of superficial.
cylinder 10y ago
This is the first I've heard about LA not having superficial people.

Inconel 10y ago

As someone who grew up mostly in SF/Oak and now lives in LA, I'm not sure I'd agree. They both have some truly beautiful areas but large parts of SF aren't particularly aesthetically pleasing, at least to me. I grew up mostly in the sunset and I found it fairly drab.

DonHopkins 10y ago

Q: How many Northern Californians does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Hella! Q: How many Southern Californians does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Totally! Hella Nor Cal or Totally So Cal? The Perceptual Dialectology of California [1] "This study provides the first detailed account of perceptual dialectology within California (as well as one of the first accounts of perceptual dialectology within any single state). Quantitative analysis of a map-labeling task carried out in Southern California reveals that California's most salient linguistic boundary is between the northern and southern regions of the state. Whereas studies of the perceptual dialectology of the United States as a whole have focused almost exclusively on regional dialect differences, respondents associated particular regions of California less with distinctive dialects than with differences in language (English versus Spanish), slang use, and social groups. The diverse sociolinguistic situation of California is reflected in the emphasis both on highly salient social groups thought to be stereotypical of California by residents and nonresidents alike (e.g., surfers) and on groups that, though prominent in the cultural landscape of the state, remain largely unrecognized by outsiders (e.g., hicks)." Extra credit question: Can you locate the isogloss [2] designating the "101" / "The 101" line? [3] [1] http://stanford.edu/class/linguist159/restricted/readings/BucholtzBermudezFungEdwardsVargas2007-JEL.pdf http://stanford.edu/class/linguist159/restricted/readings/Bu... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isogloss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isogloss [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4347ZE0NQM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4347ZE0NQM

Veratyr 10y ago

As a foreigner who's been to both, I'd say LA is a little better. There seems to be less urine in the streets. If you're talking about pure visual aesthetics, I'd also say LA wins, just by a little and primarily because of Santa Monica. In the grand scheme of things though, I don't think either rank very high, even among American cities. Chicago and New York have far nicer architecture.

seanmcdirmid 10y ago
Santa Monica isn't LA, like San Jose isn't SF. And anyways, Seattle and even Portland beat both of them.
- Inconel 10y ago
  I would argue that Santa Monica is much closer to LA in proximity and culture that SJ is to SF.
  - seanmcdirmid 10y ago
    Sure, SF is a much smaller city area wise than LA. There is a lot in between SF and SJ, Santa Monica borders LA.
  - HillaryBriss 10y ago
    FWIW, I see Santa Monica as being more akin to Berkeley, or even San Francisco, than to LA. To me, Santa Monica's politics seem much more engaging, idealistic and left-leaning than those of LA. Santa Monica is also much wealthier, on average, than LA. Because of its greater wealth (or its idealism, you decide) Santa Monica seems to be a better run city with what appear to be better maintained streets and public facilities. It's the kind of city LA residents like to escape to from time to time, if they can afford it. It's perhaps relevant that Stephen Miller, an influential element of the Trump administration, forged his identity as a reactionary provocateur in the politically correct crucible of Santa Monica High School. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-advisor-stephen-miller-booed-stage-high-school-article-1.2973670 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-advisor-steph... Just my 2 cents ...

tomwilson 10y ago

Its ugly compared to most places tbh.

mixmastamyk 10y ago

More of it was built pre-automobile. There are nice neighborhoods in LA but you'll find the rest looking much like Silicon Valley.

parshimers 10y ago

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

HillaryBriss 10y ago
dude

majormajor 10y ago

Please stop moving down here and importing your $3K+ rents, kthx then.