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How to Block Windows 10 Creators Update

26 points by mindfrost82 9y ago

ocdtrekkie 9y ago
I will say that the Creator's Update definitely still has some rough edges. Users will be better off waiting a month or two to upgrade to it.
mkj 9y ago
Surely "Creators Update" should have an apostrophe in it somewhere?
- DiabloD3 9y ago
  It should, but I've even seen Microsoft official PR statements put it as a plural instead. It really should just be officially called Windows 10.3; Threshold 1/1507/RTM being 10.0, Threshold 2/1511/November Update being 10.1, Redstone 1/1607/Anniversary Update being 10.2, Redstone 2/1703/Creator's Update being 10.3.
  - deleted 9y ago
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- phaemon 9y ago
  Maybe it's a call to arms? "Creators! Update!" Or maybe it's just a bug... ;)
  - khedoros1 9y ago
    Or a statement of fact. "Users use. Creators update."
- malza 9y ago
  It should really be called the "Creators' Update". My guess is either Microsoft's marketing people don't like apostrophes or someone at Microsoft doesn't want creators to get the idea that they have ownership of the update.
  - rustynails 9y ago
    Less likely: It could also be a command (creators please update) or a message of belonging (real creators update their systems).
- criddell 9y ago
  They've also created new rules for grammar.
Neliquat 9y ago
Remember when we used to come to tech forums to find the new updates, rather than learn how to avoid them? It just occurred to me that I literally camped out for some early OS updates. How things have changed.
- barfbuttface 9y ago
  I still feel excited about updates like that all the time with Linux.
  - digi_owl 9y ago
    Having used a distro that expose me to the sausage making, i am not. One either have to rely on everything being updated in lockstep with everything else, or expect to do some massive backporting. This because outside of a few projects, the kernel being one of them (Qt being another, oddly enough), nobody can be bothered to actually adhere to API, never mind ABI, stability beyond their own use for them.
- msarchet 9y ago
  I mean up until recently the fervor over OSX updates was ridiculous. I understand that people want to not be bothered by updates, but not updating is the reason that we have so many security holes.
  - digi_owl 9y ago
    The problem is that there is very little way to opt out of new/changed features. People hold up on doing updates because they do not know what will break, and they need the computer to work 24/7 these days to stay in contact not just with work but also with family and friends.
    - msarchet 9y ago
      I can't think of the last time something I was doing was broken by a Windows update.
sleavey 9y ago
As a Linux user, I've ignored all news of this update until I saw this headline. Why might one want to block this particular update?
- lightbyte 9y ago
  I've used it, and I'm not sure either. The author of this also doesn't seem to know why: > I’ve been using the Windows 10 Creators Update for a few months now through the Insider Preview program, and I haven’t had any major issues. Sounds like this is just baseless W10 hate.
  - msarchet 9y ago
    Seems to be running rampant in this thread.
  - BoorishBears 9y ago
    I saw some people complaining about a game (it might have been GTA V) crashing repeatedly with the update, so there is (or was) at one reason for someone to want to block it.
  - ballenf 9y ago
    I think it's the vestige of a time when people were in control of the software running on their computer. Their interest in blocking the update is directly proportional to the difficulty in doing so. I think it's healthy to oppose certain mandates in principle even if the particular mandate is good. If we lose the ability or knowledge to stop an update, we have lost some freedom. It's not too hard to imagine MS getting hacked and a truly malicious update being pushed. The hate you speak of is the hate for the principle of losing control, not hate for MS itself.
  - khedoros1 9y ago
    Or people that don't like some company treating the computer as their own (Yay, paternalistic protection from ourselves!). Or people that don't want to update to an OS version that pushes ads into basic utilities. Windows 10 is 95% great, which makes the 5% of shit in the crevices stand out even more.
discreditable 9y ago
> How To Block Windows 10 Creators Update on Professional or Enterprise Just use WSUS you silly goose.
vyrotek 9y ago
I'm happy with the update. I grabbed it the moment it was released and haven't had any issues.
andoon 9y ago
Why would you want to do this? Other than bugginess, but that's always there with Windows 10. Is there anything new that's bad?
- ballenf 9y ago
  Some people want to do this precisely because it's hard to do. And getting harder with every update. What's bad is losing control of the software running on one's system, not necessarily the content of the update itself.
- michaelbrooks 9y ago
  I think it's the addition of adverts in explorer, although from my understanding, they are completely optional [1]. [1] https://betanews.com/2017/04/10/disable-ads-windows-10-creators-update/ https://betanews.com/2017/04/10/disable-ads-windows-10-creat...
  - andoon 9y ago
    There are advertisements everywhere in Windows 10 already: the start menu, the lock screen, the notification centre. That's just another brick in the wall.
    - michaelbrooks 9y ago
      The only place I have seen them pop up so far is in the lock screen. Maybe I've seen more, but just overlooked them. The lock screen ads only show when you use the daily Bing images. You can either set your own lock screen image, or click "I don't like this image" and keep doing that every time an ad image shows.
      - andoon 9y ago
        It depends on where you live I think. The start menu by default looks like Broadway, full of colourful ads. The notification centre shows ads for Office 365 and OneDrive sometimes.
jankotek 9y ago
> Go to KB 3073930 and download Microsoft’s Wushowhide tool. (Click the link marked “Download the ‘Show or hide updates’ troubleshooter package now.”) Double-click on Wushowhide.diagcab to run it. Click the link marked Advanced. Uncheck the box marked “Apply repairs automatically.” Click Next. Wushowhide will run for a long time. Windows is so user friendly ;-) I migrated my windows app to Wine+Linux and never looked back.
- code_duck 9y ago
  Yeah, I've never understood why ticking boxes in hidden subsections of myriad mysterious configuration apps was generally regarded to be more user friendly than changing a parameter in a text file.
  - fspeech 9y ago
    It is about feature discovery. One can poke around the GUI and see what is possible or one can read the manual about options. I suppose the typical user prefers to poke around. Of course for the power users changing a text file is the way to go.
    - jasonkostempski 9y ago
      It really sucks when the option isn't in a GUI or a text file though, as is the case here.
      - fspeech 9y ago
        Ah I see. There are two issues here: making a configuration option hidden or accessible and making the change interface GUI or text based. I only commented on the second aspect. Depending on one's point of view making a configuration option hidden is either keeping users from shooting themselves in the foot or denying users freedom to control their own machines the way they see fit.
        code_duck 9y ago
edude03 9y ago
I formatted my device so I could get the update earlier. Why would anyone using windows NOT want the update?
dsrajapaksha 9y ago
Why would anyone want to block the update? I updated mine without any hassle. Took only about 10 minutes or less to finish installing. I had to reconfigure my custom context menu and explorer shortcuts though.
- Ensorceled 9y ago
  My usual reason for delaying is major deadlines where I can't (won't) take the risk of this update botching my machine.
- devopsproject 9y ago
  > I updated mine without any hassle. > I had to reconfigure my custom context menu and explorer shortcuts though Maybe this is why
  - dsrajapaksha 9y ago
    Well, this is easy to do using WinAero[1] software and I didn't really think of it as a "hassle". [1] http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.1836 http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.1836
    - devopsproject 9y ago
      I had to do zero work and didn't need to download any software when I didn't update.
- jerryr 9y ago
  I just got a giant warning popup from Parallels (virtualization software) on MacOS that I need to update Parallels before upgrading any Windows guest OSs to Windows 10 Creator's Update. The update claims to fix an issue where Windows won't boot after updating. So, maybe one would want to block the update for reasons such as this? Not sure...it was easy enough for me to stop and update Parallels first, but maybe others have reasons for not doing so.
- ionised 9y ago

26 points by mindfrost82 9y ago

I will say that the Creator's Update definitely still has some rough edges. Users will be better off waiting a month or two to upgrade to it.

mkj 9y ago

Surely "Creators Update" should have an apostrophe in it somewhere?

DiabloD3 9y ago
It should, but I've even seen Microsoft official PR statements put it as a plural instead. It really should just be officially called Windows 10.3; Threshold 1/1507/RTM being 10.0, Threshold 2/1511/November Update being 10.1, Redstone 1/1607/Anniversary Update being 10.2, Redstone 2/1703/Creator's Update being 10.3.
- deleted 9y ago
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phaemon 9y ago
Maybe it's a call to arms? "Creators! Update!" Or maybe it's just a bug... ;)
- khedoros1 9y ago
  Or a statement of fact. "Users use. Creators update."
malza 9y ago
It should really be called the "Creators' Update". My guess is either Microsoft's marketing people don't like apostrophes or someone at Microsoft doesn't want creators to get the idea that they have ownership of the update.
- rustynails 9y ago
  Less likely: It could also be a command (creators please update) or a message of belonging (real creators update their systems).
criddell 9y ago
They've also created new rules for grammar.

Neliquat 9y ago

Remember when we used to come to tech forums to find the new updates, rather than learn how to avoid them? It just occurred to me that I literally camped out for some early OS updates. How things have changed.

barfbuttface 9y ago
I still feel excited about updates like that all the time with Linux.
- digi_owl 9y ago
  Having used a distro that expose me to the sausage making, i am not. One either have to rely on everything being updated in lockstep with everything else, or expect to do some massive backporting. This because outside of a few projects, the kernel being one of them (Qt being another, oddly enough), nobody can be bothered to actually adhere to API, never mind ABI, stability beyond their own use for them.
msarchet 9y ago
I mean up until recently the fervor over OSX updates was ridiculous. I understand that people want to not be bothered by updates, but not updating is the reason that we have so many security holes.
- digi_owl 9y ago
  The problem is that there is very little way to opt out of new/changed features. People hold up on doing updates because they do not know what will break, and they need the computer to work 24/7 these days to stay in contact not just with work but also with family and friends.
  - msarchet 9y ago
    I can't think of the last time something I was doing was broken by a Windows update.

sleavey 9y ago

As a Linux user, I've ignored all news of this update until I saw this headline. Why might one want to block this particular update?

lightbyte 9y ago
I've used it, and I'm not sure either. The author of this also doesn't seem to know why: > I’ve been using the Windows 10 Creators Update for a few months now through the Insider Preview program, and I haven’t had any major issues. Sounds like this is just baseless W10 hate.
- msarchet 9y ago
  Seems to be running rampant in this thread.
- BoorishBears 9y ago
  I saw some people complaining about a game (it might have been GTA V) crashing repeatedly with the update, so there is (or was) at one reason for someone to want to block it.
- ballenf 9y ago
  I think it's the vestige of a time when people were in control of the software running on their computer. Their interest in blocking the update is directly proportional to the difficulty in doing so. I think it's healthy to oppose certain mandates in principle even if the particular mandate is good. If we lose the ability or knowledge to stop an update, we have lost some freedom. It's not too hard to imagine MS getting hacked and a truly malicious update being pushed. The hate you speak of is the hate for the principle of losing control, not hate for MS itself.
- khedoros1 9y ago
  Or people that don't like some company treating the computer as their own (Yay, paternalistic protection from ourselves!). Or people that don't want to update to an OS version that pushes ads into basic utilities. Windows 10 is 95% great, which makes the 5% of shit in the crevices stand out even more.

discreditable 9y ago

> How To Block Windows 10 Creators Update on Professional or Enterprise Just use WSUS you silly goose.

vyrotek 9y ago

I'm happy with the update. I grabbed it the moment it was released and haven't had any issues.

andoon 9y ago

Why would you want to do this? Other than bugginess, but that's always there with Windows 10. Is there anything new that's bad?

ballenf 9y ago
Some people want to do this precisely because it's hard to do. And getting harder with every update. What's bad is losing control of the software running on one's system, not necessarily the content of the update itself.
michaelbrooks 9y ago
I think it's the addition of adverts in explorer, although from my understanding, they are completely optional [1]. [1] https://betanews.com/2017/04/10/disable-ads-windows-10-creators-update/ https://betanews.com/2017/04/10/disable-ads-windows-10-creat...
- andoon 9y ago
  There are advertisements everywhere in Windows 10 already: the start menu, the lock screen, the notification centre. That's just another brick in the wall.
  - michaelbrooks 9y ago
    The only place I have seen them pop up so far is in the lock screen. Maybe I've seen more, but just overlooked them. The lock screen ads only show when you use the daily Bing images. You can either set your own lock screen image, or click "I don't like this image" and keep doing that every time an ad image shows.
    - andoon 9y ago
      It depends on where you live I think. The start menu by default looks like Broadway, full of colourful ads. The notification centre shows ads for Office 365 and OneDrive sometimes.

jankotek 9y ago

> Go to KB 3073930 and download Microsoft’s Wushowhide tool. (Click the link marked “Download the ‘Show or hide updates’ troubleshooter package now.”) Double-click on Wushowhide.diagcab to run it. Click the link marked Advanced. Uncheck the box marked “Apply repairs automatically.” Click Next. Wushowhide will run for a long time. Windows is so user friendly ;-) I migrated my windows app to Wine+Linux and never looked back.

code_duck 9y ago
Yeah, I've never understood why ticking boxes in hidden subsections of myriad mysterious configuration apps was generally regarded to be more user friendly than changing a parameter in a text file.
- fspeech 9y ago
  It is about feature discovery. One can poke around the GUI and see what is possible or one can read the manual about options. I suppose the typical user prefers to poke around. Of course for the power users changing a text file is the way to go.
  - jasonkostempski 9y ago
    It really sucks when the option isn't in a GUI or a text file though, as is the case here.
    - fspeech 9y ago
      Ah I see. There are two issues here: making a configuration option hidden or accessible and making the change interface GUI or text based. I only commented on the second aspect. Depending on one's point of view making a configuration option hidden is either keeping users from shooting themselves in the foot or denying users freedom to control their own machines the way they see fit.
      - code_duck 9y ago

edude03 9y ago

I formatted my device so I could get the update earlier. Why would anyone using windows NOT want the update?

dsrajapaksha 9y ago

Why would anyone want to block the update? I updated mine without any hassle. Took only about 10 minutes or less to finish installing. I had to reconfigure my custom context menu and explorer shortcuts though.

Ensorceled 9y ago
My usual reason for delaying is major deadlines where I can't (won't) take the risk of this update botching my machine.
devopsproject 9y ago
> I updated mine without any hassle. > I had to reconfigure my custom context menu and explorer shortcuts though Maybe this is why
- dsrajapaksha 9y ago
  Well, this is easy to do using WinAero[1] software and I didn't really think of it as a "hassle". [1] http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.1836 http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.1836
  - devopsproject 9y ago
    I had to do zero work and didn't need to download any software when I didn't update.
jerryr 9y ago
I just got a giant warning popup from Parallels (virtualization software) on MacOS that I need to update Parallels before upgrading any Windows guest OSs to Windows 10 Creator's Update. The update claims to fix an issue where Windows won't boot after updating. So, maybe one would want to block the update for reasons such as this? Not sure...it was easy enough for me to stop and update Parallels first, but maybe others have reasons for not doing so.
ionised 9y ago