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So let me guess. After XBox 1 was rolled out, it was compared unfavorably to the competition. So MS lowered the price. Then it had to make it backward compat

So let me guess. After XBox 1 was rolled out, it was compared unfavorably to the competition. So MS lowered the price. Then it had to make it backward compatible with XBox 360 games - further limiting its revenues. So I'm guessing now MS thinks they can squeeze more $ out of consumers by simply upgrading once again. Look MS, maybe you can't keep growing this market indefinitely.

dawnerd 10y ago
I love games but I've never once used backwards compatibility with new consoles. It's never quite the same. Plus in some cases, who wants to buy the games again, really?
- devmunchies 10y ago
  I game in cycles. some years i'm into it and others i'm not. backwards compat is a nice-to-have if I missed on last gen's best games.
- Zenst 10y ago
  Indeed, it depends upon your investment in games already and if your old console is still alive. Though the ease of just having one system connected for some as a conveniance does factor in. But for many keeping there old console/games and using that or indeed buying a replacement second-hand old console to utilise their game investment is always an option. Gets down to choice. Though the aspect of having to repurchase the games is somewhat a crux and does in effect reduce the option of older games to in effect buying the game again. So more for those who never had the original game/console I surmise. More so if they add no new features to those games to make them seem like value for money.
- jerrac 10y ago
  On the Xbox, if you owned it on the 360, you own it on the One. You can either download it from your library if it was a digital purchase, or stick the disc in the One if you have the disc. I have not noticed any difference between playing, say, Burnout Paradise on my 360 vs. on my One. So it seems like MS actually did a decent job on it. 'Course, you're probably referring to how you have to buy Playstation 1 games to play them on the Playstation 3 or 4, right? I have a PS3, but I've never had any PS1 games. They really don't let you just stick the disc into the PS3 to confirm you own it and then download the emulated game from the Playstation store?
  - cuckcuckspruce 10y ago
    PS3 owner here. There are three levels of backward compatibility for the PS3: - PS2 in hardware / PS1 in software - PS2 in software / PS1 in software - PS1 in software The PS2 in hardware was only select launch consoles (20 GB and 60 GB). PS2 in software were the 80 GB consoles, but that feature was patched out in an OS update some time ago. All PS3s have PS1 backwards compatibility for games from the PlayStation Store and the physical media. I was playing Chrono Cross the other day on my PS3 slim with no issues.
    - Dylan16807 10y ago
      > PS2 in software were the 80 GB consoles, but that feature was patched out in an OS update some time ago. I never heard of that happening, when was that? Wikipedia says that those 80GB consoles still had hardware PS2 GPUs and only did the CPUs in software, and that later models took out everything. No mention of software downgrades.
      - cuckcuckspruce 10y ago
        I stand corrected. There is an 80 GB model that is backwards compatible with disc based games (though it's backwards compatibility is only listed as "limited"), and, according to Sony, all PS3s can play PS2 classics downloaded from Sony. See this article for more details: https://support.us.playstation.com/articles/en_US/KC_Article/Play-PSone-and-PlayStation-2-Games-on-a-PlayStation-3 https://support.us.playstation.com/articles/en_US/KC_Article...
- libraryatnight 10y ago
  I never use backwards comparability either. Part of the reason is games are incredibly time consuming these days. I barely have time to enjoy new titles to completion, revisiting last generation titles isn't even on my radar.
chocolatebunny 10y ago
PS4 Pro was a similar upgrade. My understanding is the intent of these revisions is just to give people with 4K TVs an option to play games in 4K. The original Xbox One and PS4 are still available and they promised that all games that run on Project Scorpio and PS4Pro will also run on the original systems at a lower resolution.

dawnerd 10y ago

I love games but I've never once used backwards compatibility with new consoles. It's never quite the same. Plus in some cases, who wants to buy the games again, really?

devmunchies 10y ago
I game in cycles. some years i'm into it and others i'm not. backwards compat is a nice-to-have if I missed on last gen's best games.
Zenst 10y ago
Indeed, it depends upon your investment in games already and if your old console is still alive. Though the ease of just having one system connected for some as a conveniance does factor in. But for many keeping there old console/games and using that or indeed buying a replacement second-hand old console to utilise their game investment is always an option. Gets down to choice. Though the aspect of having to repurchase the games is somewhat a crux and does in effect reduce the option of older games to in effect buying the game again. So more for those who never had the original game/console I surmise. More so if they add no new features to those games to make them seem like value for money.
jerrac 10y ago
On the Xbox, if you owned it on the 360, you own it on the One. You can either download it from your library if it was a digital purchase, or stick the disc in the One if you have the disc. I have not noticed any difference between playing, say, Burnout Paradise on my 360 vs. on my One. So it seems like MS actually did a decent job on it. 'Course, you're probably referring to how you have to buy Playstation 1 games to play them on the Playstation 3 or 4, right? I have a PS3, but I've never had any PS1 games. They really don't let you just stick the disc into the PS3 to confirm you own it and then download the emulated game from the Playstation store?
- cuckcuckspruce 10y ago
  PS3 owner here. There are three levels of backward compatibility for the PS3: - PS2 in hardware / PS1 in software - PS2 in software / PS1 in software - PS1 in software The PS2 in hardware was only select launch consoles (20 GB and 60 GB). PS2 in software were the 80 GB consoles, but that feature was patched out in an OS update some time ago. All PS3s have PS1 backwards compatibility for games from the PlayStation Store and the physical media. I was playing Chrono Cross the other day on my PS3 slim with no issues.
  - Dylan16807 10y ago
    > PS2 in software were the 80 GB consoles, but that feature was patched out in an OS update some time ago. I never heard of that happening, when was that? Wikipedia says that those 80GB consoles still had hardware PS2 GPUs and only did the CPUs in software, and that later models took out everything. No mention of software downgrades.
    - cuckcuckspruce 10y ago
      I stand corrected. There is an 80 GB model that is backwards compatible with disc based games (though it's backwards compatibility is only listed as "limited"), and, according to Sony, all PS3s can play PS2 classics downloaded from Sony. See this article for more details: https://support.us.playstation.com/articles/en_US/KC_Article/Play-PSone-and-PlayStation-2-Games-on-a-PlayStation-3 https://support.us.playstation.com/articles/en_US/KC_Article...
libraryatnight 10y ago
I never use backwards comparability either. Part of the reason is games are incredibly time consuming these days. I barely have time to enjoy new titles to completion, revisiting last generation titles isn't even on my radar.

chocolatebunny 10y ago

PS4 Pro was a similar upgrade. My understanding is the intent of these revisions is just to give people with 4K TVs an option to play games in 4K. The original Xbox One and PS4 are still available and they promised that all games that run on Project Scorpio and PS4Pro will also run on the original systems at a lower resolution.