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I loved it. Also, my wife who was never able to grasp the original movie "got" this immediately.

lazzlazzlazz 10y ago
That's because the new one was essentially simplified to the level of a Robocop cliché. It was really embarrassing to see how limited movie producers believe our imaginations are. The original Ghost in the Shell is still difficult for many to grasp because the core theme around the essential features of identity are not yet culturally available to everyone.
- mgarfias 10y ago
  I didn't get that at all. Both still ask what it means to be human. This just asked it in a slightly different way that made it more accessible. Mostly her beefs with the original was be lack of things that explain what's going on. This movie made those things more accssible.
  - YCAU 10y ago
    But that's the thing. They mixed up so many elements from the original movie and series it doesn't ask the same questions at all. Here we have two people whose brains were put into bodies and reprogrammed. This is not the case with the original, where you have a different mind of sorts that doesn't actually need a body and isn't bound to a brain. And at the climax, the answer to "join me" was "yes", but this movie had a "no".
    - mgarfias 10y ago
      Eh, I didn’t find it that big of a deal. That is, it didn’t ruin the movie for me.
    - mathewsanders 10y ago
      The 'no' surprised me so much I laughed
    - notgood 10y ago
      She probably said "no" in order to be able to make further sequels movies with the same top-selling actress (whatever her name is), not due some deep philosophical decision.
      - Whitestrake 10y ago
        That appears to be an objectionable decision in and of itself, if I understand the argument of the person you've replied to.
      - lolive 10y ago
        She had already transcended in Lucy. Once is enough...
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notgood 10y ago
Bah; I wasn't able to grasp Serial Experiments Lain but I wouldn't change it one single thing; I prefer something that tries to challenge my intellect that a plot simpler than a rom-comedy; there is already too much of the latter anyway.

That's because the new one was essentially simplified to the level of a Robocop cliché. It was really embarrassing to see how limited movie producers believe our imaginations are. The original Ghost in the Shell is still difficult for many to grasp because the core theme around the essential features of identity are not yet culturally available to everyone.

mgarfias 10y ago
I didn't get that at all. Both still ask what it means to be human. This just asked it in a slightly different way that made it more accessible. Mostly her beefs with the original was be lack of things that explain what's going on. This movie made those things more accssible.
- YCAU 10y ago
  But that's the thing. They mixed up so many elements from the original movie and series it doesn't ask the same questions at all. Here we have two people whose brains were put into bodies and reprogrammed. This is not the case with the original, where you have a different mind of sorts that doesn't actually need a body and isn't bound to a brain. And at the climax, the answer to "join me" was "yes", but this movie had a "no".
  - mgarfias 10y ago
    Eh, I didn’t find it that big of a deal. That is, it didn’t ruin the movie for me.
  - mathewsanders 10y ago
    The 'no' surprised me so much I laughed
  - notgood 10y ago
    She probably said "no" in order to be able to make further sequels movies with the same top-selling actress (whatever her name is), not due some deep philosophical decision.
    - Whitestrake 10y ago
      That appears to be an objectionable decision in and of itself, if I understand the argument of the person you've replied to.
    - lolive 10y ago
      She had already transcended in Lucy. Once is enough...
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notgood 10y ago

Bah; I wasn't able to grasp Serial Experiments Lain but I wouldn't change it one single thing; I prefer something that tries to challenge my intellect that a plot simpler than a rom-comedy; there is already too much of the latter anyway.