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An aluminum body is exactly the kind of iteration that was being talked about. It is neat, but its not and all new drive train on a totally different tech. Alum
by sqeaky 10y ago
An aluminum body is exactly the kind of iteration that was being talked about. It is neat, but its not and all new drive train on a totally different tech. Aluminium is a pretty well understood material, while self driving cars are virgin territory.
Tesla is making larger swings and potentially accepting larger risk. Ford is... iterating.
- foofoo55 10y agoI would much rather drive an iterated vehicle than one based on a large swing or risk.
- beamatronic 10y agoBut you can drive the latter in the car pool lane
- Neliquat 10y agoYou can drive anything in that lane with a passenger. Just sayin.
- cr0sh 10y agoIIRC, here in sand-land (AZ) you can drive solo in our OHV lanes with a vehicle that has less than four wheels (mainly motorcycles - but if you have the cash for one of those nice 3-wheeled "cars", you're still good).
- vkou 10y agoFor now. Once enough EVs are on the road, it'll go back to being 2+ or 3+.
- bluGill 10y agoWhat innovation is Tesla making? Electric cars are not new. In fact the first production car to reach 60mph back in the day was electric. Aluminum in a production car is a lot more innovative that an electric car. (li batteries in a production car though is innovative)
- sqeaky 10y agoElectric cars aren't new... if you really want to compare modern vehicles to those it pile batteries. When the roadster came out there was nothing like it. Electric vehicles prior to the Telsas where research projects and low torque ultralight budget vehicles. Listing the differences between a Telsa and its closest successor, if you could pick one is not an easy task. Listing the difference between an F-150 and and F-150 with and aluminum was already done this sentence the hardest part was spelling aluminum. You can pick an threshold for choosing what is evolution and revolution, I am just trying to choose a reasonable one.
- simplyluke 10y agoThe dunning kruger effect is super prominent in the tech community's discussions of Tesla. Plenty of other manufactures are doing innovative things with automation, technology, etc. Not to mention most of them can build a higher quality interior/driver experience for far less than what Tesla wants for a Model S
- aianus 10y agoIt's 2017 and a $60,000 Audi still won't let you start it up remotely from your phone and run the heater/AC so it's comfortable by the time you leave your house. Seems like the most basic, obvious, easy to implement feature but they still can't manage it. Apparently because it's "illegal in Germany" to have a car running without an operator behind the wheel. What a joke. Tesla will wipe the floor with them.
- zeveb 10y agoWhy would I want to install an app from a carmaker on my phone, complete with privacy-invading spyware, when I could just use the keyfob to do it?
- aianus 10y agoAt work I'm parked down the street from the car so the key fob wouldn't reach. But that's beside the point; you can't even do it from the key fob today on a new Audi.
- cr0sh 10y agoI wonder if Tesla is contemplating building and selling a half-ton pickup truck to compete against Ford's F-150 (and others)? That's what I'm kinda waiting for - I don't want a car; I like having a pickup. Ideally, it would be 4WD (and my next pickup will be - right now my off-road vehicle is an Isuzu VehiCROSS that I'm pouring money into). I would love it if my next pickup truck was a self-driving, off-road, 4WD electric beast. But I don't see that happening any time soon - at least not before I get to the point of replacing my current truck.
- mohaine 10y agoAccording to the "Master Plan part 2", a "new type" of pickup is in the works. That is pretty much all that has been released at this point though.