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Honest question: how would you reconcile privacy-centric communities like Reddit and definitely-not-privacy-centric communities like Facebook? They both have t

Honest question: how would you reconcile privacy-centric communities like Reddit and definitely-not-privacy-centric communities like Facebook? They both have the same patterns of information bubbles generally feed content in similar ways (broadly speaking) and they both have strong troll subgroups. If anything, Facebook might have a lower overall incidence of trolling because you run the risk of having your profile picture on the evening news.

nradov 10y ago
Does Facebook actually have less trolling? I don't know how anyone could quantify it but subjectively there seems to be a lot. It's easy to create fake accounts, and some people just don't care.
- pdelbarba 10y ago
  In an absolute sense I imagine they probably have more, given that they have something like 1.5 billion users. I think the type of trolling might be more mild in general though, back when I used it regularly it was mostly just 20 page political debates hinging on gross misunderstandings by both parties... Obviously this is just my experience though.
- dredmorbius 10y ago
  Enough so that the retiring US Attorney for Chicago specifically called it out for the city's murder problem. https://archive.fo/203tP https://archive.fo/203tP
  - nradov 10y ago
    Criminal street gang members threatening and dissing each other doesn't qualify as trolling. If we're calling that trolling now then the term has lost all meaning. And that retiring US Attorney didn't cite any evidence of one social media system being worse than the others.
    - dredmorbius 10y ago
      "Trolling: A person who posts inflammatory or otherwise unwanted material on an electronic forum, especially anonymously." http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trolling http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trolling "Troll: One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument." https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll&defid=5096 https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll&defid=... Provoking gangland warfare to the tune of http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-open-letter-zachary-fardon-20170313-htmlstory.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-open-le... There's been an absolute epidemic within this thread of people attempting to redefine trolling in such a way as to minimise either the problem or the source article. It's beyond stupid, beyond credible, and beyond sustaining any credibility of those doing it. Ya trollin' me, bra?
      - dredmorbius 10y ago
        For some reason, most of what I'd posted to the above comment (quotes from the letter) don't appear to have made it through. Sigh.
ouid 10y ago
it's not about quantity of trolls, it's about the effect of trolls. No one cares if you're a troll on reddit, because there's no personal investment. You're just an account. There's an upper bound on the damage that can be inflicted on you. That is not the case with Facebook. Reddit doesn't have to do anything about trolls except give people a downvote button.
- pdelbarba 10y ago
  Fair point. It is worth noting that they occasionally stalk users and try to de-anonymize them though this is a fairly "niche" practice.
  - mlonkibjuyhv 10y ago
    That would be harassment, no?
H4CK3RM4N 10y ago
Reddit's attempting to bridge this gap already by addin a Facebook-like profile where you can build an identity or following based on your screen name.

nradov 10y ago

Does Facebook actually have less trolling? I don't know how anyone could quantify it but subjectively there seems to be a lot. It's easy to create fake accounts, and some people just don't care.

pdelbarba 10y ago
In an absolute sense I imagine they probably have more, given that they have something like 1.5 billion users. I think the type of trolling might be more mild in general though, back when I used it regularly it was mostly just 20 page political debates hinging on gross misunderstandings by both parties... Obviously this is just my experience though.
dredmorbius 10y ago
Enough so that the retiring US Attorney for Chicago specifically called it out for the city's murder problem. https://archive.fo/203tP https://archive.fo/203tP
- nradov 10y ago
  Criminal street gang members threatening and dissing each other doesn't qualify as trolling. If we're calling that trolling now then the term has lost all meaning. And that retiring US Attorney didn't cite any evidence of one social media system being worse than the others.
  - dredmorbius 10y ago
    "Trolling: A person who posts inflammatory or otherwise unwanted material on an electronic forum, especially anonymously." http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trolling http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trolling "Troll: One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument." https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll&defid=5096 https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll&defid=... Provoking gangland warfare to the tune of http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-open-letter-zachary-fardon-20170313-htmlstory.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-open-le... There's been an absolute epidemic within this thread of people attempting to redefine trolling in such a way as to minimise either the problem or the source article. It's beyond stupid, beyond credible, and beyond sustaining any credibility of those doing it. Ya trollin' me, bra?
    - dredmorbius 10y ago
      For some reason, most of what I'd posted to the above comment (quotes from the letter) don't appear to have made it through. Sigh.

ouid 10y ago

it's not about quantity of trolls, it's about the effect of trolls. No one cares if you're a troll on reddit, because there's no personal investment. You're just an account. There's an upper bound on the damage that can be inflicted on you. That is not the case with Facebook. Reddit doesn't have to do anything about trolls except give people a downvote button.

pdelbarba 10y ago
Fair point. It is worth noting that they occasionally stalk users and try to de-anonymize them though this is a fairly "niche" practice.
- mlonkibjuyhv 10y ago
  That would be harassment, no?

H4CK3RM4N 10y ago

Reddit's attempting to bridge this gap already by addin a Facebook-like profile where you can build an identity or following based on your screen name.