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While that may be true for a software engineer the same does not apply to AI talent. The Vector Institute will offer salaries comparable to top global industri

While that may be true for a software engineer the same does not apply to AI talent. The Vector Institute will offer salaries comparable to top global industrial AI labs. Also the Canadian industry appreciates the value a good data scientist and knows the talent war is global.

ahelwer 10y ago
Source on the salaries?
- cing 10y ago
  Likely no published source. OP seems to be involved with U of Toronto's business school "incubator" for A.I. start-ups, which has close ties to Vector Institute.
- tjpoutanen 10y ago
  http://vectorinstitute.ai http://vectorinstitute.ai Scroll down to career opportunities. The research scientist position is advertised as being competitive with industry labs.
ryanobjc 10y ago
I'd love to hear more on this. Also, since no person is an island, any plans to boost pay for supporting staff and engineers? Just so we're clear, top ai pays like $250k USD for entry level with no real cap, but senior staff can easily take home $500-900k
- FreedomToCreate 10y ago
  I'd also love to hear which employer is paying 250K for an entry level position? This seems like the salary the 1 genius for every 10,000 good graduates would get. And without taking bonus into account, I doubt an engineer is getting paid 900K. You would see that engineer out the door the moment his retirement account was full. No engineer is gonna bust their ass for someone else once they know they are set financially.
  - aanm1988 10y ago
    When people talk about AI entry level they generally mean people with PhDs. and yes, people are taking home that kind of money.
    - imh 10y ago
      More specifically, I hear the top top entry level salaries are going to fresh PhDs from just a small handful of labs.
      - epicureanideal 10y ago
        Which labs?
      - cing 10y ago
        "Fei-Fei Li, a Stanford University professor who is an expert in computer vision, said one of her Ph.D. candidates had an offer for a job paying more than $1 million a year, and that was only one of four from big and small companies." https://nytimes.com/2016/03/26/technology/the-race-is-on-to-control-artificial-intelligence-and-techs-future.html https://nytimes.com/2016/03/26/technology/the-race-is-on-to-...
        Cyph0n 10y ago
        That's crazy. Am I wrong in thinking that this is a scary bubble?
        aianus 10y ago
        Google makes $1m per average employee; it's not hard to believe they can make many times that on an AI researcher.
        sevensor 10y ago
        I don't know if you're wrong, but you're certainly not alone. If you read history, or you're old enough, you'll know that we've already had at least two AI winters (mid 70s to early 80s and early 90s to early 00s), depending on how you count them, and the hype around machine learning is almost word-for-word the same as the hype around expert systems was last time around. This bubble is ripe for bursting.

ahelwer 10y ago

Source on the salaries?

cing 10y ago
Likely no published source. OP seems to be involved with U of Toronto's business school "incubator" for A.I. start-ups, which has close ties to Vector Institute.
tjpoutanen 10y ago
http://vectorinstitute.ai http://vectorinstitute.ai Scroll down to career opportunities. The research scientist position is advertised as being competitive with industry labs.

ryanobjc 10y ago

I'd love to hear more on this. Also, since no person is an island, any plans to boost pay for supporting staff and engineers? Just so we're clear, top ai pays like $250k USD for entry level with no real cap, but senior staff can easily take home $500-900k

FreedomToCreate 10y ago
I'd also love to hear which employer is paying 250K for an entry level position? This seems like the salary the 1 genius for every 10,000 good graduates would get. And without taking bonus into account, I doubt an engineer is getting paid 900K. You would see that engineer out the door the moment his retirement account was full. No engineer is gonna bust their ass for someone else once they know they are set financially.
- aanm1988 10y ago
  When people talk about AI entry level they generally mean people with PhDs. and yes, people are taking home that kind of money.
  - imh 10y ago
    More specifically, I hear the top top entry level salaries are going to fresh PhDs from just a small handful of labs.
    - epicureanideal 10y ago
      Which labs?
    - cing 10y ago
      "Fei-Fei Li, a Stanford University professor who is an expert in computer vision, said one of her Ph.D. candidates had an offer for a job paying more than $1 million a year, and that was only one of four from big and small companies." https://nytimes.com/2016/03/26/technology/the-race-is-on-to-control-artificial-intelligence-and-techs-future.html https://nytimes.com/2016/03/26/technology/the-race-is-on-to-...
      - Cyph0n 10y ago
        That's crazy. Am I wrong in thinking that this is a scary bubble?
        aianus 10y ago
        Google makes $1m per average employee; it's not hard to believe they can make many times that on an AI researcher.
        sevensor 10y ago
        I don't know if you're wrong, but you're certainly not alone. If you read history, or you're old enough, you'll know that we've already had at least two AI winters (mid 70s to early 80s and early 90s to early 00s), depending on how you count them, and the hype around machine learning is almost word-for-word the same as the hype around expert systems was last time around. This bubble is ripe for bursting.