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My point is that the more people feel detached from the political process, the less responsible they feel to take an active part in the process. This is why I b
by folli 10y ago
My point is that the more people feel detached from the political process, the less responsible they feel to take an active part in the process. This is why I believe that a regional government is to be preferred over a centralistic government.
I'm aware that not all problems can be solved on a regional level, but those that can, should. This is especially true on a cultural more diverse landscape such as Europe compared to e.g. the US.
Regarding your second question, lack of democracy: one thing that comes to mind is the lack of binding referendums and initiatives, as it happens e.g. in Switzerland on a regular basis.
- zelos 10y agoSubsidiarity is one of the founding tenets of the EU: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/summary/glossary/subsidiarity.html http://eur-lex.europa.eu/summary/glossary/subsidiarity.html Whether that's true in practice is a matter of opinion.
- sangnoir 10y agoIs there any that evidence the optimal administrative size for people not to feel "detached from the political process" is at state level? Why not further devolve sovereignty further to the british isles, regions, cities or counties? The absurdity of it all is that the Tories say "It's good to leave the union" when the subject is Brexit, while also saying "It's not good to leave the union" when the subject is Indyref 2
- mstade 10y agoNot to mention the hypocrisy of voting to remain and then championing the effort to leave. UK politics is so broken right now.
- nfbush 10y agoThe poll was legally binding, they had to leave. Not that politics isn't broken ofc. EDIT I was wrong
- eyko 10y agoThe referendum was not legally binding.
- djmobley 10y agoIt would have been untenable, however, for a government to defy the will of the people as expressed in the referendum.
- afandian 10y agoI have no desire to re-hash this particular argument, but the margin, 48/52 was very small. Very close to 50/50. And the turnout wasn't perfect. I've heard that only something like 30% of the eligible voters voted to leave. There was no "will of the people". The people were undecided.
- millak 10y agoIndeed, it's frustrating to see it constantly said that the "decisive will of the British people" has spoken!
- another-dave 10y agoAnd then there's the fact that Britons settled in Europe didn't have a vote. Whatever you can say about voting rights for overseas citizens in general elections, this vote was explicitly removing rights that they are currently exercising as part of EU membership — arguably they are the most affected by the outcome, yet were disenfranchised.
- random_comment 10y ago> It would have been untenable, however, for a government to defy the will of the people as expressed in the referendum. I may have missed something but at no point was anything resembling the current 'plan' ever put forward to be considered as 'the will of the people'.
- sangnoir 10y ago> Not to mention the hypocrisy of voting to remain and then championing the effort to leave. I'm not sure if you're referring to Scotland/Indiref 2 - but there's no hypocrisy if the voter's intention in both cases is to remain in the EU. Maybe you're referring to Theresa May? If so, I fully agree.
- mstade 10y agoI'm indeed referring to Theresa May, sorry for the confusion.
- paulajohnson 10y agoThe Nordic states are about 5M people each, and they routinely top the score cards for general wellbeing. Some people (who?) have suggested that 5M might be an optimal number.
- Symbiote 10y agoYet Sweden, Denmark and Finland are in the EU, and Norway and Iceland are in the EEA. There's no big group wanting to change this.
- lordnacho 10y ago> Why not further devolve sovereignty further to the british isles, regions, cities or counties? That's a great idea, and precisely what they do in Switzerland. Stuff that's local is decided locally. What days are holidays? Depends on what canton you're in. How are schools organised? Local. What are taxes? Local. That doesn't mean you can't organise some things on a national level, for instance the military, and federal projects like the excellent technical universities. And there's a federal tax to go with it. If little regions had more power it would be a lot easier as an individual to shop around for the area you like, and for experiments to be made.