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And once they hear Amazon can't track a lot of people moving quickly... A lot of people will decide to start moving quickly.

by SerLava 10y ago

crooked-v 10y ago
I can already foresee a dozen people showing up in zebra-striped hoodies to see what happens when they shop together.
- harryh 10y ago
  I'm sure that some people will but there will almost certainly be security in the store that will politely ask them to stop.
- notgood 10y ago
  They realize that amazon now measures the height of each customer, also has a miniature drone following them around and each floor tile measure the weight of the people for that extra data point, oh and some have employees disguised as customers whom help the system when in doubt.
  - Neliquat 10y ago
    Weight belts, got it.
    - victor9000 10y ago
      and platform shoes.
  - throwanem 10y ago
    'Who help'. 'Whom' is the objective case, parallel to 'them'; a good way to test the correctness of a particular use is to substitute the latter for the former and see if the sentence is still grammatical.
- ysavir 10y ago
  Time for some "identical twin" experiments.
  - zitterbewegung 10y ago
    I am an identical twin and on my brothers surface book I'm able to fool windows hello for some reason.
    - ReverseCold 10y ago
      > for some reason Hmm, maybe it's because he's your identical twin?
      - zitterbewegung 10y ago
        Forgot to mention that Microsoft claims that I shouldn't be able to do that.
        freehunter 10y ago
        Really? Microsoft says a webcam should be able to instantly tell the difference between you and someone who looks literally exactly identical to you?
- tyingq 10y ago
  Amazon will counter by convincing third parties to resell their goods on the shelf. Amazon takes their cut of sales, but doesn't chip in on losses or fraud. Oh wait...
  - huntersbellend 10y ago
    Does Amazon already do this?
    - pooper 10y ago
      Previously on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13955981 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13955981 We had a discussion about Amazon.com comingling inventory with seller inventory. More discussion at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13924546 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13924546
    - tyingq 10y ago
      It's a nod to their online model. You sell android phones as a 3rd party on Amazon.com. Buyer claims "not as described". Keeps phone, puts potato in Android box and returns it. Amazon forces you to refund. Probably distressing to Amazon that they can't foist off losses of physical in-store shoplifting onto 3rd parties.
jodrellblank 10y ago
A lot of people will turn up to play basketball, while someone in a bear suit steals things.
- boulos 10y ago
  It was a gorilla suit, not a bear suit ;): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo
  - arjie 10y ago
    There's a variant with a moonwalking bear which is rather well known: https://youtu.be/Ahg6qcgoay4 https://youtu.be/Ahg6qcgoay4
    - boulos 10y ago
      Interesting. Your post got me to finally look up the history of this [1]. Apparently it was a woman with an umbrella in a 1975 study, but made extreme by Simons in 1992 with the gorilla. The moonwalking bear is apparently from a 2008 Transport for London advertisement [2] to remind people to see cyclists. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness [2] https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/nov/16/transport-invisible-bear-cyclists-youtube https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/nov/16/transport-invisib...
deanCommie 10y ago
You know you can already get things for free at current stores. It's called shoplifting and it's REALLY EASY. The truth is in Western Society most people don't do this. And after an initial novelty factor (which I'm sure Amazon will account for), people won't bother any more than they shoplift now. P.S. Nor will they shoot Amazon Prime AIr drones out of the sky like other HN threads fret.
- SerLava 10y ago
  Shoplifting by outpacing a tracking algorithm has high levels of plausible deniability. It's not illegal to hurry, and if Amazon fails to notice you picking up a product, that's their problem due to the system they thought up. That would entice a lot of people.

And once they hear Amazon can't track a lot of people moving quickly... A lot of people will decide to start moving quickly.

by SerLava 10y ago

And once they hear Amazon can't track a lot of people moving quickly... A lot of people will decide to start moving quickly.

crooked-v 10y ago

I can already foresee a dozen people showing up in zebra-striped hoodies to see what happens when they shop together.

harryh 10y ago
I'm sure that some people will but there will almost certainly be security in the store that will politely ask them to stop.
notgood 10y ago
They realize that amazon now measures the height of each customer, also has a miniature drone following them around and each floor tile measure the weight of the people for that extra data point, oh and some have employees disguised as customers whom help the system when in doubt.
- Neliquat 10y ago
  Weight belts, got it.
  - victor9000 10y ago
    and platform shoes.
- throwanem 10y ago
  'Who help'. 'Whom' is the objective case, parallel to 'them'; a good way to test the correctness of a particular use is to substitute the latter for the former and see if the sentence is still grammatical.
ysavir 10y ago
Time for some "identical twin" experiments.
- zitterbewegung 10y ago
  I am an identical twin and on my brothers surface book I'm able to fool windows hello for some reason.
  - ReverseCold 10y ago
    > for some reason Hmm, maybe it's because he's your identical twin?
    - zitterbewegung 10y ago
      Forgot to mention that Microsoft claims that I shouldn't be able to do that.
      - freehunter 10y ago
        Really? Microsoft says a webcam should be able to instantly tell the difference between you and someone who looks literally exactly identical to you?
tyingq 10y ago
Amazon will counter by convincing third parties to resell their goods on the shelf. Amazon takes their cut of sales, but doesn't chip in on losses or fraud. Oh wait...
- huntersbellend 10y ago
  Does Amazon already do this?
  - pooper 10y ago
    Previously on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13955981 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13955981 We had a discussion about Amazon.com comingling inventory with seller inventory. More discussion at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13924546 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13924546
  - tyingq 10y ago
    It's a nod to their online model. You sell android phones as a 3rd party on Amazon.com. Buyer claims "not as described". Keeps phone, puts potato in Android box and returns it. Amazon forces you to refund. Probably distressing to Amazon that they can't foist off losses of physical in-store shoplifting onto 3rd parties.

jodrellblank 10y ago

A lot of people will turn up to play basketball, while someone in a bear suit steals things.

boulos 10y ago
It was a gorilla suit, not a bear suit ;): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo
- arjie 10y ago
  There's a variant with a moonwalking bear which is rather well known: https://youtu.be/Ahg6qcgoay4 https://youtu.be/Ahg6qcgoay4
  - boulos 10y ago
    Interesting. Your post got me to finally look up the history of this [1]. Apparently it was a woman with an umbrella in a 1975 study, but made extreme by Simons in 1992 with the gorilla. The moonwalking bear is apparently from a 2008 Transport for London advertisement [2] to remind people to see cyclists. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness [2] https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/nov/16/transport-invisible-bear-cyclists-youtube https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/nov/16/transport-invisib...

deanCommie 10y ago

You know you can already get things for free at current stores. It's called shoplifting and it's REALLY EASY. The truth is in Western Society most people don't do this. And after an initial novelty factor (which I'm sure Amazon will account for), people won't bother any more than they shoplift now. P.S. Nor will they shoot Amazon Prime AIr drones out of the sky like other HN threads fret.

SerLava 10y ago
Shoplifting by outpacing a tracking algorithm has high levels of plausible deniability. It's not illegal to hurry, and if Amazon fails to notice you picking up a product, that's their problem due to the system they thought up. That would entice a lot of people.