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> Kiiiinnnnda. People make bad decisions You can't outlaw bad decisions - but it seems that some people will never get tired of trying...

marcosdumay 10y ago
Construction codes are all about outlawing bad decisions. Of course, those are "bad" decisions that save a few penny from the builders, and stay hidden until they surprise the building owner with a huge unpredictable cost. No water lines to urinals fits that descriptions nicely.
- brudgers 10y ago
  As they say: Built to code == the worst construction that is legal
- btschaegg 10y ago
  > Of course, those are "bad" decisions that save a few penny from the builders, and stay hidden until they surprise the building owner with a huge unpredictable cost. Another case in point: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0UG0H720160102 http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0UG0H720160102
Retra 10y ago
You can outlaw bad decisions. That's the whole point of laws.
- viraptor 10y ago
  I thought law is about forbidding harmful decisions, not bad ones? (At least in theory) Most of the stupid things you do to yourself, without affecting others are not regulated.
  - Retra 10y ago
    Bad decisions are bad because they are harmful. And most stupid things you do to yourself do affect others, and they are regulated according to the significance of the damage, not merely predicated on its existence.
    - viraptor 10y ago
      I specifically qualified with not affecting others, because otherwise that would be a different discussion. Yet...
      - Retra 10y ago
        Yet we still find some reason to regulate just about everything, because people are pretty creative about finding ways to pass the consequences of their bad decisions onto other people. I don't know real estate developers to be any sort of exception, do you?
        kelnos 10y ago
        Just because "we" find reasons to do this doesn't make it right, or a good idea.
        Retra 10y ago
        No shit. What is it you think I'm trying to say here?
- ythn 10y ago
  Try outlawing tobacco and see what happens (hint: Prohibition).
  - Retra 10y ago
    I'm not arguing that all bad decisions should be outlawed, so I don't exactly see the relevance.
CPLX 10y ago
In an optimal world, those would be the only kinds of decisions we would outlaw.

marcosdumay 10y ago

Construction codes are all about outlawing bad decisions. Of course, those are "bad" decisions that save a few penny from the builders, and stay hidden until they surprise the building owner with a huge unpredictable cost. No water lines to urinals fits that descriptions nicely.

brudgers 10y ago
As they say: Built to code == the worst construction that is legal
btschaegg 10y ago
> Of course, those are "bad" decisions that save a few penny from the builders, and stay hidden until they surprise the building owner with a huge unpredictable cost. Another case in point: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0UG0H720160102 http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0UG0H720160102

Retra 10y ago

You can outlaw bad decisions. That's the whole point of laws.

viraptor 10y ago
I thought law is about forbidding harmful decisions, not bad ones? (At least in theory) Most of the stupid things you do to yourself, without affecting others are not regulated.
- Retra 10y ago
  Bad decisions are bad because they are harmful. And most stupid things you do to yourself do affect others, and they are regulated according to the significance of the damage, not merely predicated on its existence.
  - viraptor 10y ago
    I specifically qualified with not affecting others, because otherwise that would be a different discussion. Yet...
    - Retra 10y ago
      Yet we still find some reason to regulate just about everything, because people are pretty creative about finding ways to pass the consequences of their bad decisions onto other people. I don't know real estate developers to be any sort of exception, do you?
      - kelnos 10y ago
        Just because "we" find reasons to do this doesn't make it right, or a good idea.
        Retra 10y ago
        No shit. What is it you think I'm trying to say here?
ythn 10y ago
Try outlawing tobacco and see what happens (hint: Prohibition).
- Retra 10y ago
  I'm not arguing that all bad decisions should be outlawed, so I don't exactly see the relevance.

CPLX 10y ago

In an optimal world, those would be the only kinds of decisions we would outlaw.