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Does this violate their terms of service? I've heard they do not want desktop uploading or any form of uploading media through the API. I can't seem to find an

Does this violate their terms of service? I've heard they do not want desktop uploading or any form of uploading media through the API. I can't seem to find an API reference for uploading on api.instagram.com

aaronpk 10y ago
Their terms of service also prohibit apps from using "gram" in the name.
- taytus 10y ago
  This is correct for applications using IG's API. This is not the case for statimgram.
  - ceejayoz 10y ago
    Your bigger concern should probably be Facebook's trademark lawyers.
  - CaveTech 10y ago
    Using private API's while also infringing on their terms, basically guaranteeing that your service will be blocked the minute it has any type of traction.
  - deleted 10y ago
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taytus 10y ago
We provide a full "end to end" posting service requiring no intervention from you after you have scheduled your posts (no push notifications to your phone and you having to open the Instagram app to post it for example. We don't use IG's API.
- jimminy 10y ago
  IANAL But that is the issue, you as a developer and provider may not run afoul of the terms directly, but your users will. Section 10 in the Basic Terms forbids accessing Instagrams Private API's. And if that isn't being used and you are a user of Instagram are running afoul of Section 4 of those terms in soliciting, collecting, or using the login credentials of other users. As well as your naming being in conflict with Terms and trademarks. Unless you're offering the service, through a reminder system with push notifications, you or yoru customer is probably breaking the Terms somewhere. You should probably have a lawyer verify that you're not running straight into a legal mess.
  - elastic_church 10y ago
    I think the part that you are missing is that nobody cares about company Terms of Service. The consequences are nonexistent to negligible at best. If in this case Instagram kills someone's account because of this service, then Statimgram takes on the possible liability of damages if its worth it to the brand. Having an understanding of how people spin up accounts on Instagram and build mass real targeted followers quickly and cheaply, it wouldn't even be worth it to sue. But again, Statimgram's liability. Low risk proposition though.
    - ceejayoz 10y ago
      > The consequences are nonexistent to negligible at best. Not in all cases. I work for a company that has a Facebook app at its core, and while we'd love to use a service like this to post to Instagram, it'd risk Facebook shutting our main app's access to the Facebook API down.
    - GrinningFool 10y ago
      > The consequences are nonexistent to negligible at best. Unless you build a business model around violating them, and they shut you down when they discover it... Arbitrary changes are always a risk when it comes to building for a third party platform, but if you're violating the ToS from the start, it's just asking for a 'worst case' scenario for your company and customers.

aaronpk 10y ago

Their terms of service also prohibit apps from using "gram" in the name.

taytus 10y ago
This is correct for applications using IG's API. This is not the case for statimgram.
- ceejayoz 10y ago
  Your bigger concern should probably be Facebook's trademark lawyers.
- CaveTech 10y ago
  Using private API's while also infringing on their terms, basically guaranteeing that your service will be blocked the minute it has any type of traction.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]

taytus 10y ago

We provide a full "end to end" posting service requiring no intervention from you after you have scheduled your posts (no push notifications to your phone and you having to open the Instagram app to post it for example. We don't use IG's API.

jimminy 10y ago
IANAL But that is the issue, you as a developer and provider may not run afoul of the terms directly, but your users will. Section 10 in the Basic Terms forbids accessing Instagrams Private API's. And if that isn't being used and you are a user of Instagram are running afoul of Section 4 of those terms in soliciting, collecting, or using the login credentials of other users. As well as your naming being in conflict with Terms and trademarks. Unless you're offering the service, through a reminder system with push notifications, you or yoru customer is probably breaking the Terms somewhere. You should probably have a lawyer verify that you're not running straight into a legal mess.
- elastic_church 10y ago
  I think the part that you are missing is that nobody cares about company Terms of Service. The consequences are nonexistent to negligible at best. If in this case Instagram kills someone's account because of this service, then Statimgram takes on the possible liability of damages if its worth it to the brand. Having an understanding of how people spin up accounts on Instagram and build mass real targeted followers quickly and cheaply, it wouldn't even be worth it to sue. But again, Statimgram's liability. Low risk proposition though.
  - ceejayoz 10y ago
    > The consequences are nonexistent to negligible at best. Not in all cases. I work for a company that has a Facebook app at its core, and while we'd love to use a service like this to post to Instagram, it'd risk Facebook shutting our main app's access to the Facebook API down.
  - GrinningFool 10y ago
    > The consequences are nonexistent to negligible at best. Unless you build a business model around violating them, and they shut you down when they discover it... Arbitrary changes are always a risk when it comes to building for a third party platform, but if you're violating the ToS from the start, it's just asking for a 'worst case' scenario for your company and customers.