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Just MS up to its old (classic) tricks.

by hashkb 10y ago

pjmlp 10y ago
Doesn't Hangouts only work properly on Chrome?
- dekhn 10y ago
  There is a plugin for IE and safari. Some versions of Firefox work. The important issue is that chrome and Firefox are browsers that work on the big three platforms.
- daenney 10y ago
  It works fine in every browser, but you might need to download a small plugin if you're not on Chrome due to WebRTC being a standard but not a standard. Regardless of your browser, it'll heat your system up so you can fry an egg or broil a steak.
  - 0x6c6f6c 10y ago
    Yeah the Hangouts website is my main gripe with it. Great service for talking with friends and family. Absolutely horrible performance on their site. Something to do with WebGL being used during background transitions would drop the performance of my graphics card into the dirt. Games running at the same time would incur a frame drop of 90% for the 5 seconds Hangouts is merely changing a PICTURE..
    - tajen 10y ago
      Try https://appear.in https://appear.in . I have no affiliation, I just find the idea of not logging in awesome.
  - cortesoft 10y ago
    Not in FireFox anymore. They sent alerts for a long time saying FireFox was losing support for hangouts, and now it doesn't work at all.
    - daenney 10y ago
      True. But temporary: https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2017/02/google-hangouts-temporary-issues-with-firefox.html https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2017/02/google-hangouts.... Ironically that's being caused by WebRTC not having compatible enough implementations across all major browsers (and as an aside being disproportionally difficult to debug). Otherwise they would've just dropped the plugin and be done with it much earlier. Though I'm surprised they didn't act earlier.
      - roca 10y ago
        The biggest WebRTC interop problem is due to Chrome declining to implement the "Unified Plan" for multiple streams ... a plan they agreed to implement when the spec was worked out. https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=465349 https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=465349
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- senorjazz 10y ago
  oh come on, don't you know google doesn't get held to the same standards \s
- xtracto 10y ago
  It is funny but in our experience around the company some people found out it works better on Safari than in Chrome (like, in Chrome oftentimes mic cannot be heard when one enters a hangout).

Just MS up to its old (classic) tricks.

by hashkb 10y ago

Just MS up to its old (classic) tricks.

pjmlp 10y ago

Doesn't Hangouts only work properly on Chrome?

dekhn 10y ago
There is a plugin for IE and safari. Some versions of Firefox work. The important issue is that chrome and Firefox are browsers that work on the big three platforms.
daenney 10y ago
It works fine in every browser, but you might need to download a small plugin if you're not on Chrome due to WebRTC being a standard but not a standard. Regardless of your browser, it'll heat your system up so you can fry an egg or broil a steak.
- 0x6c6f6c 10y ago
  Yeah the Hangouts website is my main gripe with it. Great service for talking with friends and family. Absolutely horrible performance on their site. Something to do with WebGL being used during background transitions would drop the performance of my graphics card into the dirt. Games running at the same time would incur a frame drop of 90% for the 5 seconds Hangouts is merely changing a PICTURE..
  - tajen 10y ago
    Try https://appear.in https://appear.in . I have no affiliation, I just find the idea of not logging in awesome.
- cortesoft 10y ago
  Not in FireFox anymore. They sent alerts for a long time saying FireFox was losing support for hangouts, and now it doesn't work at all.
  - daenney 10y ago
    True. But temporary: https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2017/02/google-hangouts-temporary-issues-with-firefox.html https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2017/02/google-hangouts.... Ironically that's being caused by WebRTC not having compatible enough implementations across all major browsers (and as an aside being disproportionally difficult to debug). Otherwise they would've just dropped the plugin and be done with it much earlier. Though I'm surprised they didn't act earlier.
    - roca 10y ago
      The biggest WebRTC interop problem is due to Chrome declining to implement the "Unified Plan" for multiple streams ... a plan they agreed to implement when the spec was worked out. https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=465349 https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=465349
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senorjazz 10y ago
oh come on, don't you know google doesn't get held to the same standards \s
xtracto 10y ago
It is funny but in our experience around the company some people found out it works better on Safari than in Chrome (like, in Chrome oftentimes mic cannot be heard when one enters a hangout).