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There is an upgrade from an Aeron?
by italicbold 10y ago
There is an upgrade from an Aeron?
- rfrank 10y agoEmbody, also by Herman Miller.
- hamstercat 10y agoCan pledge for the Embody, I bought one and it's one of my best purchase ever.
- synaesthesisx 10y agoI've been eyeing the Embody for a while now - used to have an Aeron but personally wasn't about it. A few years ago I managed to get a cheap varidesk from a startup that was shuttering in my building...
- ghaff 10y agoIt seems as if there are people who like mesh chairs and people who like cloth/foam chairs. Personally I still love my 10+ year old Aeron but I've also known quite a few folks who don't really care for them.
- CalChris 10y agoAt $1500 for a chair, no wonder these startups are failing.
- rfrank 10y agoSomething something it's literally impossible to hire engineers who aren't showered in toys and treats. But yeah, I generally agree with you. I like my fancy chair because I spend an awful lot of time in it every day, and I'm tall (6'6"), so most chairs are pretty uncomfortable for me and my lower back already sucks.
- tthayer 10y agoI went to work for a utility company blocks away from Puppet HQ, New Relic, Tripwire, Simple, and many others. There are tradeoffs but it has been one of the best decisions that I've made for my work-life balance in years. Perks are basically non-existent, but they ring hollow if the work isn't enjoyable or rewarding enough on its own.
- rfrank 10y agoI know the feeling. I'm digital marketing guy for an electronics manufacturing shop, our office environments are likely similar. Occasionally I interview at startups when I think what they're doing is actually interesting, and it always feels like I'm visiting another planet. My nights and weekends are worth more than free meals and laundry.
- itchyouch 10y agothere was an article a while back about how any type of exercise movement, weight lifting to running to walking would ease up lower back pain. Ultimately comes down to strengthening those muscles. Sitting all day atrophies the muscles. I had lower back pain for the first 30 years of my life, then started deadlifting and the back pain is gone. g'luck
- scott_s 10y agoOf course, the most common injury when deadlifting form slips is probably lowerback related. I still think everyone would benefit from some strength training! Any strenuous physical activity has risk from injury, but I think that risk is better to accept than the risk from doing nothing. But it's worth looking up some powerlifting videos on YouTube for good form and cues. (I've seen deadlifting videos from non-powerlifters, and I have not been impressed.) This is a good one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5eGGZXb0Is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5eGGZXb0Is Layne Norton is a smart, thoughtful guy and an elite powerlifter.
- CalChris 10y ago
- metaphorm 10y agolook, friend, this is the most sedentary line of work there is. if you don't have a good chair you're in for a world of hurt.
- CalChris 10y agoI've slept under my desk because the couch was already occupied. I think a certain amount of pain in a startup focuses people and I'm very good with that. As for sedentary, it doesn't have to be. I worked at 100 Hamilton Ave once before it was Palantir. Boring work but there was a gym in the basement. I got my bench 1RM up to 270. And I've worked at a certain company where the VP of Resources personally adjusted the Aeron to my 6'4" as part of my onboarding. This did not impress me. It ain't the chair.
- metaphorm 10y agoit ain't the chair, but it's a nice perk to have as far as perks go. I'd probably pick a nice chair over almost any other office amenity.
- toomuchtodo 10y ago$1500/1920 work hours a year = $0.78/hr. Seems reasonable to me.
- dualogy 10y ago> $1500/1920 work hours a year = $0.78/hr. Seems reasonable to me. If that sounds good to you, consider $150/1920 instead for a thought experiment! Sounds about fair for someone like me who assuredly could work for years on end sitting on a rock or any random plastic chair outside Hanoi for all I care.. I'd be madly paranoid about spilling coffee or such sitting in a 1500 piece of furniture
- toomuchtodo 10y agoI write to you from an Aeron chair I acquired from a failed startup in 2001. I've gotten almost 16 years out of it so far, and I spend at least 8 hours a day 5 days a week in it. I've spilled coffee and food on it, and was able to clean it with just a bit of Dawn detergent and a hose. I'm not willing to compromise on my health or my working conditions. Too old for that. Spend money on things that make your life more comfortable or easier when you can.
- EpicEng 10y agoMaybe. $1600 is still $1600 though, and the luxuries add up to real money. Especially worrisome when you're generating no real revenue and operating on other people's dime.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoIs your workstation a luxury? Bathrooms? Desks? Ergonomic chairs are no different. They are tools of your trade; don't skimp on tools.
- EpicEng 10y agoWhat a ridiculous comparison. No, I wouldn't say bathrooms are a luxury. A $1600 chair is. What world do you live in?
- tomjen3 10y agoAt 100k year (cheap for an engineer!) that is about a weeks wages.
- smcl 10y agoCheap for an engineer in some parts of the USA. Can we please stop pretending that (what are in most of the world) large amounts of money are actually small potatoes. It is not ignorance, you know you're better off than the rest of us so please stop pretending like it's nothing.
- metaphorm 10y agothat's a typical engineer salary in a funded startup or a big tech company in basically any U.S. city that has funded startups or big tech companies. I know engineer pay is lower in some other countries. UK comes to mind as particularly awful for engineer pay. Still, the context of the discussion is in how much it costs _the company_ not how much it costs the engineer. It's small potatoes for a company.
- inimino 10y agoAnd 80% of the software engineers in the world aren't in America. If you think the countries like the UK where pay is lower than the US, which is the highest in the world, is "particularly awful", you might be living in a bubble. Not to mention plenty of people making less than 100k even in the US, even for big tech companies you've heard of in big cities like Seattle and New York.
- gspetr 10y agoWe have quite a bit of people here on HN making over £100k in London. I wouldn't say UK is "particularly awful".
- metaphorm 10y agoI'm a bit disappointed in the accusatory tone of your post. Literally everyone is in a bubble. My bubble is New York City. What's yours? There are zero humans anywhere in any time or place that have global awareness and are not bounded by their personal experience and local context. So what are you even trying to say?
- bdcravens 10y agoHow many new Macbook Pros + 27" monitors have been purchased over the years for a sales person to check email and use a web-based CRM?
- stable-point 10y agoI don't imagine many start-ups buy them new. My previous employer bought a bunch of Aeron chairs second-hand (from other failed start-ups...)
- cmiles74 10y agoI've been really happy with my AllSteel #19. http://www.allsteeloffice.com/products/seating/work/19 http://www.allsteeloffice.com/products/seating/work/19
- pcunite 10y agoNeutral Posture
- aedron 10y agoI have an Aeron and a Mirra 2. The Mirra 2 is an upgrade in every way.