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It's still not that bad. It's always a version number (ex., 7), the following version they add an 'S' (ex., 7S), then the following version they will increase

It's still not that bad. It's always a version number (ex., 7), the following version they add an 'S' (ex., 7S), then the following version they will increase the version number (ex., 8). "Plus" means bigger, and you can regognize it because it's bigger, "SE" means lower-end, you can recognize it because it costs a lot less. I currently own a Huawei Y6II, which I read is a clone of the P9. No idea what it means, what the following version will be called, or what the previous version was called.

squeaky-clean 10y ago
> "Plus" means bigger, and you can regognize it because it's bigger, "SE" means lower-end, you can recognize it because it costs a lot less. It's also a smaller phone, just like how the Plus is larger and costs more, but isn't any faster. The name or price of SE doesn't imply lower end at all, they've even removed the number so you don't know which one it's comparable to. I agree it's not awful, just that it's slipping.
- nkkollaw 10y ago
  I don't know, I tried switching to PCs for a while, I couldn't get how their naming works. I mean, where do you even begin to try to figure this out: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/
  - komali2 10y ago
    You just look at the hardware and read reviews. There isn't really a sliding scale for PCs, that's the awesome thing about manufacturers that let you customize. Doing a lot of gaming or modelling? Better graphics card. Running shitloads of processes? Better ram. Better processor. Extra HDD, or SSD, or optical drive? Etc.
    - nkkollaw 10y ago
      So, because they aren't sane enough to figure out a naming scheme that makes sense, I have to waste hours or days looking at reviews just to understand what the difference is between the models? From what I could understand it's possible that the X67L is a good laptop, the X67LX is a crappy low-cost plastic netbook. How dumb is that. Also, why do they ask me if my laptop is for work or home? What if I use it for both (which I do)? It doesn't make any sense. I bought the new MacBook Pro mostly because of macOS, but also because I couldn't figure out how PC name their products, nor why they have to have 50 different barely-different models.
      - pbhjpbhj 10y ago
        >X67L is a good laptop, the X67LX is a crappy low-cost plastic netbook. How dumb is that. // To me that's not half as frustrating as the companies that sell a, let's say 755cx and then create a new model a few years later and call that 755cx ... how bloody annoying [like hey, this review is from 7 years before the thing was made, and it's a completely different system]. Or worse still, not have a model number to refer to. I think the worst I had was trying to find parts for a Toshiba laptop, IIRC, there were about 5 different models in 10 years with the same designation, like lets just call all our new laptops the "Laptop New" what could possibly be wrong with that.
      - michaelmrose 10y ago
        You make this sound bizarrely difficult given a defined price range you could probably pick a decent laptop based on amazon reviews in 15 minutes and be pretty happy with it. If you want to play real pc games get a desktop or a console unless you have a lot of money to spend. How do you deal with the rest of the consumer universe? I'm betting you get along just fine.
        nkkollaw 10y ago
        > How do you deal with the rest of the consumer universe? I'm betting you get along just fine. Yes, because I couldn't care less. I do care about my laptop, though. If anything because it's 1,500 or more.
    - throwaway91111 10y ago
      Nothing about driver compatibility :( it's a long and painful process to figure out if the computer you want will even work with the software you want to use. Of course I'm sure it's better if you use the blessed OS and version pair, but I've never found a reason to use windows before....
      - krisdol 10y ago
        Driver compatibility could be hell in windows as well if you're cursed with a "switchable" graphics option. My last lenovo could switch between on-board and dedicated graphics, but the latest video driver that lenovo provided was from the year before I even bought the laptop. If I used the card manufacturer's drivers, they'd usually work but killed the ability to switch to on-board graphics; but if I used Lenovo's drivers, games performed very badly due to how out of date they were. Having one manufacturer and fewer models usually means longer and more consistent product support.
  - vacri 10y ago
    > I mean, where do you even begin to try to figure this out: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ ... by reading the subtitles? I like lenovo laptops and I agree that they have too many model lines, but apart from a couple of subtitles, most of them are descriptive of that particular line.
  - Spooky23 10y ago
    Computers are easy. Try figuring out business printers. My colleague who was leading the effort was ready to gouge out his eyes.
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throwaway91111 10y ago
How do you figure that se means lower end? It's the only model with that size screen; I'd think that's the determinant for a lot of people.
ComputerGuru 10y ago
iPhone is OK. Now explain iPad to me.

squeaky-clean 10y ago

> "Plus" means bigger, and you can regognize it because it's bigger, "SE" means lower-end, you can recognize it because it costs a lot less. It's also a smaller phone, just like how the Plus is larger and costs more, but isn't any faster. The name or price of SE doesn't imply lower end at all, they've even removed the number so you don't know which one it's comparable to. I agree it's not awful, just that it's slipping.

nkkollaw 10y ago
I don't know, I tried switching to PCs for a while, I couldn't get how their naming works. I mean, where do you even begin to try to figure this out: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/
- komali2 10y ago
  You just look at the hardware and read reviews. There isn't really a sliding scale for PCs, that's the awesome thing about manufacturers that let you customize. Doing a lot of gaming or modelling? Better graphics card. Running shitloads of processes? Better ram. Better processor. Extra HDD, or SSD, or optical drive? Etc.
  - nkkollaw 10y ago
    So, because they aren't sane enough to figure out a naming scheme that makes sense, I have to waste hours or days looking at reviews just to understand what the difference is between the models? From what I could understand it's possible that the X67L is a good laptop, the X67LX is a crappy low-cost plastic netbook. How dumb is that. Also, why do they ask me if my laptop is for work or home? What if I use it for both (which I do)? It doesn't make any sense. I bought the new MacBook Pro mostly because of macOS, but also because I couldn't figure out how PC name their products, nor why they have to have 50 different barely-different models.
    - pbhjpbhj 10y ago
      >X67L is a good laptop, the X67LX is a crappy low-cost plastic netbook. How dumb is that. // To me that's not half as frustrating as the companies that sell a, let's say 755cx and then create a new model a few years later and call that 755cx ... how bloody annoying [like hey, this review is from 7 years before the thing was made, and it's a completely different system]. Or worse still, not have a model number to refer to. I think the worst I had was trying to find parts for a Toshiba laptop, IIRC, there were about 5 different models in 10 years with the same designation, like lets just call all our new laptops the "Laptop New" what could possibly be wrong with that.
    - michaelmrose 10y ago
      You make this sound bizarrely difficult given a defined price range you could probably pick a decent laptop based on amazon reviews in 15 minutes and be pretty happy with it. If you want to play real pc games get a desktop or a console unless you have a lot of money to spend. How do you deal with the rest of the consumer universe? I'm betting you get along just fine.
      - nkkollaw 10y ago
        > How do you deal with the rest of the consumer universe? I'm betting you get along just fine. Yes, because I couldn't care less. I do care about my laptop, though. If anything because it's 1,500 or more.
  - throwaway91111 10y ago
    Nothing about driver compatibility :( it's a long and painful process to figure out if the computer you want will even work with the software you want to use. Of course I'm sure it's better if you use the blessed OS and version pair, but I've never found a reason to use windows before....
    - krisdol 10y ago
      Driver compatibility could be hell in windows as well if you're cursed with a "switchable" graphics option. My last lenovo could switch between on-board and dedicated graphics, but the latest video driver that lenovo provided was from the year before I even bought the laptop. If I used the card manufacturer's drivers, they'd usually work but killed the ability to switch to on-board graphics; but if I used Lenovo's drivers, games performed very badly due to how out of date they were. Having one manufacturer and fewer models usually means longer and more consistent product support.
- vacri 10y ago
  > I mean, where do you even begin to try to figure this out: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ ... by reading the subtitles? I like lenovo laptops and I agree that they have too many model lines, but apart from a couple of subtitles, most of them are descriptive of that particular line.
- Spooky23 10y ago
  Computers are easy. Try figuring out business printers. My colleague who was leading the effort was ready to gouge out his eyes.

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throwaway91111 10y ago

How do you figure that se means lower end? It's the only model with that size screen; I'd think that's the determinant for a lot of people.

ComputerGuru 10y ago

iPhone is OK. Now explain iPad to me.