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Why would anyone expect Hollywood to get anything right? From chess to gun fights to sword fights to relationships to computing to anything. Hollywood isn't in

Why would anyone expect Hollywood to get anything right? From chess to gun fights to sword fights to relationships to computing to anything. Hollywood isn't in the business of accurate depictions.

izacus 10y ago
Of course when you do accurate depicions, the piece of film can "feel" so much better. We people can kinda detect things that are "off" and not as we remember them and that can push you away from suspension of disbelief and thus enjoyment of the film. It's easy to fall into the hole of uncanny valley if too much things just don't add up. Keeping things realistic can also add more non-manufactured conflict that makes content more interesting - e.g. see for example The Expanse, where a lot of conflict of the story also lies in the fact that the writers understood how space physics works.
- pbhjpbhj 10y ago
  An accurate depiction of life has lots of things wrong in it though. It's easy to fall in to the hole of imagining an accurate depiction is one in which everything is precise and correct.
  - izacus 10y ago
    > It's easy to fall in to the hole of imagining an accurate depiction is one in which everything is precise and correct. Hmm, what do you mean? Isn't that the definition of accuracy?
    - tempodox 10y ago
      In academia, yes. In life, however, things are just wrong. For example, a Hollywood where things are so simplified as to be unrealistic, is a real part of real life.
    - pbhjpbhj 10y ago
      To enlarge on the point I often hear people mis-speak, but that never happens in a film, or someone hiccups, or farts at an inopportune time (rather than for comedic effect). These things would be repeated in an accurate portrayal of people but seldom appear in films. Accuracy in entertainment media is over-rated and can impinge on a story's telling.
- LoSboccacc 10y ago
  yes - as an example, how visceral heat robbery feels is owed to how much it looks and plays like an actual, tense shootout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL9fnVtz_lc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL9fnVtz_lc
- Sharlin 10y ago
  Eh, on the other hand we have http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealityIsUnrealistic http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealityIsUnrealis... At this point many things cannot be done in a realistic manner because it would break the viewers' suspension of disbelief...
cmdkeen 10y ago
There was an article recently about a thriving business for ex-military extras. It was specifically about Rogue One and that their use gives a degree of authenticity that extra otherwise wouldn't have in terms of how they interact with, or even just sit in a cockpit. The same for the ground combat scenes. Years ago when the BBC made a drama series about a cathedral choir they found it easier to take choristers and teach them to act than to teach actors to sing. Whilst the overall plots or concepts may still be greater than life there are directors that appreciate a bit of underlying accuracy.
GuB-42 10y ago
As someone not in the business, I'm wondering. Are Hollywood movies accurate in their depictions of movie making?
- CM30 10y ago
  Usually not: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArtisticLicenseFilmProduction http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArtisticLicenseFi... Then again, based on the very large index of TV Tropes pages called 'Artistic License - X', it's pretty clear that Hollywood movies (and other media) are usually inaccurate in their depictions of just about anything. It's entertainment, it doesn't have to be accurate (and in a lot of cases is usually better if it isn't).

Why would anyone expect Hollywood to get anything right? From chess to gun fights to sword fights to relationships to computing to anything. Hollywood isn't in the business of accurate depictions.

izacus 10y ago

Of course when you do accurate depicions, the piece of film can "feel" so much better. We people can kinda detect things that are "off" and not as we remember them and that can push you away from suspension of disbelief and thus enjoyment of the film. It's easy to fall into the hole of uncanny valley if too much things just don't add up. Keeping things realistic can also add more non-manufactured conflict that makes content more interesting - e.g. see for example The Expanse, where a lot of conflict of the story also lies in the fact that the writers understood how space physics works.

pbhjpbhj 10y ago
An accurate depiction of life has lots of things wrong in it though. It's easy to fall in to the hole of imagining an accurate depiction is one in which everything is precise and correct.
- izacus 10y ago
  > It's easy to fall in to the hole of imagining an accurate depiction is one in which everything is precise and correct. Hmm, what do you mean? Isn't that the definition of accuracy?
  - tempodox 10y ago
    In academia, yes. In life, however, things are just wrong. For example, a Hollywood where things are so simplified as to be unrealistic, is a real part of real life.
  - pbhjpbhj 10y ago
    To enlarge on the point I often hear people mis-speak, but that never happens in a film, or someone hiccups, or farts at an inopportune time (rather than for comedic effect). These things would be repeated in an accurate portrayal of people but seldom appear in films. Accuracy in entertainment media is over-rated and can impinge on a story's telling.
LoSboccacc 10y ago
yes - as an example, how visceral heat robbery feels is owed to how much it looks and plays like an actual, tense shootout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL9fnVtz_lc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL9fnVtz_lc
Sharlin 10y ago
Eh, on the other hand we have http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealityIsUnrealistic http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealityIsUnrealis... At this point many things cannot be done in a realistic manner because it would break the viewers' suspension of disbelief...

cmdkeen 10y ago

There was an article recently about a thriving business for ex-military extras. It was specifically about Rogue One and that their use gives a degree of authenticity that extra otherwise wouldn't have in terms of how they interact with, or even just sit in a cockpit. The same for the ground combat scenes. Years ago when the BBC made a drama series about a cathedral choir they found it easier to take choristers and teach them to act than to teach actors to sing. Whilst the overall plots or concepts may still be greater than life there are directors that appreciate a bit of underlying accuracy.

GuB-42 10y ago

As someone not in the business, I'm wondering. Are Hollywood movies accurate in their depictions of movie making?

CM30 10y ago
Usually not: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArtisticLicenseFilmProduction http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArtisticLicenseFi... Then again, based on the very large index of TV Tropes pages called 'Artistic License - X', it's pretty clear that Hollywood movies (and other media) are usually inaccurate in their depictions of just about anything. It's entertainment, it doesn't have to be accurate (and in a lot of cases is usually better if it isn't).