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It seems like you have omitted the scenario that seems most likely by dint of the evolution of the internet: not needing a government at all.
by jMyles 10y ago
It seems like you have omitted the scenario that seems most likely by dint of the evolution of the internet: not needing a government at all.
- triangleman 10y agoI'm sorry but can you explain the basis of your position? I don't see how the internet makes anarchy any more feasible or likely.
- jMyles 10y agoAlthough this is a topic that needs a book-level dialogue to flesh out (and there are in fact books on the topic), in a nutshell: The internet performs many of the functions that our species previously required government to do, but does so without the need for a centralized authority claiming a monopoly on the initiation of force, which brings with it inevitable corruption, violence, division, and victimization of the world's poor.
- triangleman 10y agoSeriously though, what you are advocating is the Californian Ideology, which has been tried and failed over the last 30 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Californian_Ideology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Californian_Ideology See the following documentary: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace/ http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/all-watched-over-by-machines-...
- ianai 10y agoDefecting from the government is not an option.
- plandis 10y agoAh yes, a world led by 4chan. What a utopia that would be!
- jMyles 10y agoThis seems to be nothing more than a strawman; I'm not sure what you are expecting as a response.
- plandis 10y agoI don't think it's a straw man at all. Some people are wonderful at manipulation and organization on the internet. Certain places on 4chan are wonderful when it comes to organizing people. The causes they take up are mostly morally questionable. If people are going to organize on the internet places like 4chan will lead the way, for whatever that means.
- Daishiman 10y agoSure let me know how that works out in preventing pollution at nation scale.
- jMyles 10y agoWhen stacked against the bang-up job that the US Government has done, not only on the landmass over which is claims sovereignty but the rest of the world - especially the continent of Africa - I'm certainly open to solutions other than government.
- Daishiman 10y agoYou've evidently never seen what cities and lakes were like before pollution regulation were introduced, right?
- jMyles 10y agoI'm from upstate NY - I grew up with superfund sites to the North, East, and West. And yes, I'm glad that the EPA (and DoJ!) have occasionally done the right thing. But I don't think they've done the right thing often enough to suggest that the model they represent is the best humans can do.