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How is this article in any way not about GMOs? The whole point of roundup is that you can douse food crops with enormous quantities that would normally kill the

How is this article in any way not about GMOs? The whole point of roundup is that you can douse food crops with enormous quantities that would normally kill them, thanks to genetic modifications.

cm2012 10y ago
Roundup vastly reduces pesticide quantity.
- pbhjpbhj 10y ago
  It takes a lot more water than bleach, when imbibed, to kill someone .. bleach for everyone?
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    The addition of appropriate amounts of chlorine to drinking water may well be the single thing that has most impacted human health.
    - kuschku 10y ago
      And it’s something that’s never been done in large parts of Europe, without any issues.
the_af 10y ago
I would separate GMO, the technology and field of research, from Monsanto. I don't see why corporate corruption and dishonesty must go hand in hand with GMOs. Even glyphosate itself is not the whole story about GMOs.
Teever 10y ago
roundup predates GMOs
randomdata 10y ago
The whole point? We still spray roundup on many of our non-GMO crops. It's inconsequential, if not desirable, to kill the crop near harvest. Roundup had a couple of decades of use in food production before GMOs arrived on the scene. Also, most of what you see coming out of the sprayer is water. The actual amount of glyphosate used in an application is minimal.
- jmnicolas 10y ago
  Yeah but glyphosate is not an aliment. Why would you eat something that is not an aliment ?
DanBC 10y ago
The whole point of roundup is that you can use it earlier in the growing cycle, when weeds and non-GMO crops are more vulnerable. This should mean that farmers can use less chemical so long as they're using GMO crop. "Buy our product, you'll spend more on inputs" would be a fucking stupid USP for Monsanto.
- 09bjb 10y ago
  It _should_...until the pests attaching the crops develop resistance to the chosen combination of agrichemical/genetically-induced resistance to said agrichemical. Here's a 2010 article--it's gotten significantly worse since then. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/business/energy-environment/04weed.html?pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/business/energy-environmen...
dragonwriter 10y ago
> How is this article in any way not about GMOs? The whole point of roundup is that you can douse food crops with enormous quantities that would normally kill them, thanks to genetic modifications. No, it's not. RoundUp was around and commercially used as a weedkiller, including in agriculture, before transgenic RoundUp Ready traits were developed. It's true that RoundUp Ready and similar traits increase the demand for and use of the herbicides they provide resistance to, but the safety of the herbicides is orthogonal to the safety of the herbicide resistant crops.

How is this article in any way not about GMOs? The whole point of roundup is that you can douse food crops with enormous quantities that would normally kill them, thanks to genetic modifications.

cm2012 10y ago

Roundup vastly reduces pesticide quantity.

pbhjpbhj 10y ago
It takes a lot more water than bleach, when imbibed, to kill someone .. bleach for everyone?
- maxerickson 10y ago
  The addition of appropriate amounts of chlorine to drinking water may well be the single thing that has most impacted human health.
  - kuschku 10y ago
    And it’s something that’s never been done in large parts of Europe, without any issues.

the_af 10y ago

I would separate GMO, the technology and field of research, from Monsanto. I don't see why corporate corruption and dishonesty must go hand in hand with GMOs. Even glyphosate itself is not the whole story about GMOs.

Teever 10y ago

roundup predates GMOs

randomdata 10y ago

The whole point? We still spray roundup on many of our non-GMO crops. It's inconsequential, if not desirable, to kill the crop near harvest. Roundup had a couple of decades of use in food production before GMOs arrived on the scene. Also, most of what you see coming out of the sprayer is water. The actual amount of glyphosate used in an application is minimal.

jmnicolas 10y ago
Yeah but glyphosate is not an aliment. Why would you eat something that is not an aliment ?

DanBC 10y ago

The whole point of roundup is that you can use it earlier in the growing cycle, when weeds and non-GMO crops are more vulnerable. This should mean that farmers can use less chemical so long as they're using GMO crop. "Buy our product, you'll spend more on inputs" would be a fucking stupid USP for Monsanto.

09bjb 10y ago
It _should_...until the pests attaching the crops develop resistance to the chosen combination of agrichemical/genetically-induced resistance to said agrichemical. Here's a 2010 article--it's gotten significantly worse since then. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/business/energy-environment/04weed.html?pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/business/energy-environmen...

dragonwriter 10y ago

> How is this article in any way not about GMOs? The whole point of roundup is that you can douse food crops with enormous quantities that would normally kill them, thanks to genetic modifications. No, it's not. RoundUp was around and commercially used as a weedkiller, including in agriculture, before transgenic RoundUp Ready traits were developed. It's true that RoundUp Ready and similar traits increase the demand for and use of the herbicides they provide resistance to, but the safety of the herbicides is orthogonal to the safety of the herbicide resistant crops.