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It's also a rather important security feature.

by axoltl 10y ago

ams6110 10y ago
When OSX and iOS merge, there won't be any options other than the App Store. Might as well bite the bullet and make the necessary revisions, or just decide to abandon the Apple market.
- hgontijo 10y ago
  Is that really happening? Links or you just got information from inside Apple?
  - ams6110 10y ago
    I'm speculating. I just can't see the financial upside for Apple to continue with Mac OS X. The vast majority of their sales and profits are from phones, tablets, and music. Mac OS X and laptop and desktop hardware will become more and more of a distraction. We've seen them stagnating already. As a unix, Mac OS X is a rather elderly BSD. They may keep a laptop device in the mix, but it will be more like a chromebook and run iOS. Again, I'm speculating.
    - chrisballinger 10y ago
      Except you need to use macOS to develop iOS apps.
      - ams6110 10y ago
        Now, yes. No reason that couldn't change. It's just software.
- LeoPanthera 10y ago
  > When OSX and iOS merge [Citation needed]
- 1123581321 10y ago
  That's not happening, and wouldn't be worth worrying about until it's announced anyway. We know it's not happening because Tim Cook has explicitly said so. Additionally, it doesn't make financial or engineering or UX sense.
- jacquesm 10y ago
  Not that Apple never spoke an un-truth, but they're on the record saying that will not happen: http://fortune.com/2015/10/13/apple-merge-ios-os-x/ http://fortune.com/2015/10/13/apple-merge-ios-os-x/ (They also said they would not launch a small tablet and so on...)
  - dingo_bat 10y ago
    No stylus also.
    - gurkendoktor 10y ago
      Which is still true, there's no stylus for the iPhone. You can buy one for the iPad Pro, which is a completely different product, just like you can buy a Wacom tablet for your Mac.
      - dingo_bat 10y ago
        I know. My point was that Steve Jobs was extremely critical of tablets that have a stylus and said ipad won't have one ever. But they went back on that, too, like the other examples.
        gurkendoktor 10y ago
        Ah, I was only aware of Jobs' comments about styluses in 2007, which are often quoted but not really relevant (he was talking about phones). Turns out he also brought it up in the context of the iPad: https://www.wired.com/2015/09/steve-jobs-stylus/ https://www.wired.com/2015/09/steve-jobs-stylus/
- kilon 10y ago
  Eeeeeeh ... you know .... iOS is just a mobile version of MacOS ... to be specific it's macOS code plus some code to make it mobile friend. Thus there is zero need for a merge.
ThomPete 10y ago
That argument is not really useful as you can basically set up the Mac to make it really insecure. The real question is should those who really care about security and are fine with the limitations of an sandboxed app really be defining the OS X ecosystem.

It's also a rather important security feature.

by axoltl 10y ago

It's also a rather important security feature.

When OSX and iOS merge, there won't be any options other than the App Store. Might as well bite the bullet and make the necessary revisions, or just decide to abandon the Apple market.

hgontijo 10y ago
Is that really happening? Links or you just got information from inside Apple?
- ams6110 10y ago
  I'm speculating. I just can't see the financial upside for Apple to continue with Mac OS X. The vast majority of their sales and profits are from phones, tablets, and music. Mac OS X and laptop and desktop hardware will become more and more of a distraction. We've seen them stagnating already. As a unix, Mac OS X is a rather elderly BSD. They may keep a laptop device in the mix, but it will be more like a chromebook and run iOS. Again, I'm speculating.
  - chrisballinger 10y ago
    Except you need to use macOS to develop iOS apps.
    - ams6110 10y ago
      Now, yes. No reason that couldn't change. It's just software.
LeoPanthera 10y ago
> When OSX and iOS merge [Citation needed]
1123581321 10y ago
That's not happening, and wouldn't be worth worrying about until it's announced anyway. We know it's not happening because Tim Cook has explicitly said so. Additionally, it doesn't make financial or engineering or UX sense.
jacquesm 10y ago
Not that Apple never spoke an un-truth, but they're on the record saying that will not happen: http://fortune.com/2015/10/13/apple-merge-ios-os-x/ http://fortune.com/2015/10/13/apple-merge-ios-os-x/ (They also said they would not launch a small tablet and so on...)
- dingo_bat 10y ago
  No stylus also.
  - gurkendoktor 10y ago
    Which is still true, there's no stylus for the iPhone. You can buy one for the iPad Pro, which is a completely different product, just like you can buy a Wacom tablet for your Mac.
    - dingo_bat 10y ago
      I know. My point was that Steve Jobs was extremely critical of tablets that have a stylus and said ipad won't have one ever. But they went back on that, too, like the other examples.
      - gurkendoktor 10y ago
        Ah, I was only aware of Jobs' comments about styluses in 2007, which are often quoted but not really relevant (he was talking about phones). Turns out he also brought it up in the context of the iPad: https://www.wired.com/2015/09/steve-jobs-stylus/ https://www.wired.com/2015/09/steve-jobs-stylus/
kilon 10y ago
Eeeeeeh ... you know .... iOS is just a mobile version of MacOS ... to be specific it's macOS code plus some code to make it mobile friend. Thus there is zero need for a merge.

ThomPete 10y ago

That argument is not really useful as you can basically set up the Mac to make it really insecure. The real question is should those who really care about security and are fine with the limitations of an sandboxed app really be defining the OS X ecosystem.