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As per usual: Good job of extrapolating american circumstances to the rest of the world

lucaspiller 10y ago
I live in Lithuania, and here you can get unlimited LTE for €19.90/month from Telia. It's designed to be used at home for those who can't get fibre optic internet, but I guess it would work fine in a phone too.
jankotek 10y ago
Quite opposite. US is far behind and expensive. UK and Ireland had unlimited data plans 5 years ago for 20 euro/month. Today even Turkey or Vietnam have better data deals than US.
- adventured 10y ago
  > Quite opposite. US is far behind and expensive. The US isn't far behind. The US had over 90% 4G population coverage long before it was wide-spread across Europe. Europe lagged far behind the US in fact. [1] It is expensive. You're conflating two separate things. The US had unlimited data plans longer than five years ago. Some carriers briefly went away from them and are now going back to them due to competition. The UK has a median income that is barely comparable to the poorest US states. [2] Why would it be surprising if our goods cost more? Despite that, our cost of household goods is almost universally lower than the UK, with a few exceptions like wireless. [1a] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/10288585/Europe-lagging-in-4G-deployment.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/10288585... [1b] https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304914204579396622656906700 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304914204579396... Feb 2017: "UK trailing behind Europe and US in 4G usage" [1c] http://www.vanillaplus.com/2017/02/25/25474-missed-connections-uk-trailing-behind-europe-us-4g-usage/ http://www.vanillaplus.com/2017/02/25/25474-missed-connectio... "Europe slow to adopt 4G mobile: sector execs" [1d] http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-telecoms-idUKTRE78Q60W20110928 http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-telecoms-idUKTRE78Q60W20110... Mar 2016: "Stop whining, America: Your LTE makes Europe look slow" [1e] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/10/twin_prime_global_network_survey/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/10/twin_prime_global_n... [2] https://mises.org/blog/if-sweden-and-germany-became-us-states-they-would-be-among-poorest-states https://mises.org/blog/if-sweden-and-germany-became-us-state...
  - jankotek 10y ago
    Ok, lets put it in a different way. In Ireland I had cheap prepaid card and 40GB/month was not problem (this was on 3G). I could not do that in US, I would have to sign for 1 year and pay over $1000 in total.

I live in Lithuania, and here you can get unlimited LTE for €19.90/month from Telia. It's designed to be used at home for those who can't get fibre optic internet, but I guess it would work fine in a phone too.

jankotek 10y ago

Quite opposite. US is far behind and expensive. UK and Ireland had unlimited data plans 5 years ago for 20 euro/month. Today even Turkey or Vietnam have better data deals than US.

adventured 10y ago
> Quite opposite. US is far behind and expensive. The US isn't far behind. The US had over 90% 4G population coverage long before it was wide-spread across Europe. Europe lagged far behind the US in fact. [1] It is expensive. You're conflating two separate things. The US had unlimited data plans longer than five years ago. Some carriers briefly went away from them and are now going back to them due to competition. The UK has a median income that is barely comparable to the poorest US states. [2] Why would it be surprising if our goods cost more? Despite that, our cost of household goods is almost universally lower than the UK, with a few exceptions like wireless. [1a] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/10288585/Europe-lagging-in-4G-deployment.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/10288585... [1b] https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304914204579396622656906700 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304914204579396... Feb 2017: "UK trailing behind Europe and US in 4G usage" [1c] http://www.vanillaplus.com/2017/02/25/25474-missed-connections-uk-trailing-behind-europe-us-4g-usage/ http://www.vanillaplus.com/2017/02/25/25474-missed-connectio... "Europe slow to adopt 4G mobile: sector execs" [1d] http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-telecoms-idUKTRE78Q60W20110928 http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-telecoms-idUKTRE78Q60W20110... Mar 2016: "Stop whining, America: Your LTE makes Europe look slow" [1e] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/10/twin_prime_global_network_survey/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/10/twin_prime_global_n... [2] https://mises.org/blog/if-sweden-and-germany-became-us-states-they-would-be-among-poorest-states https://mises.org/blog/if-sweden-and-germany-became-us-state...
- jankotek 10y ago
  Ok, lets put it in a different way. In Ireland I had cheap prepaid card and 40GB/month was not problem (this was on 3G). I could not do that in US, I would have to sign for 1 year and pay over $1000 in total.