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Easy fix. Number pad should come up with numbers in different random order each time.
by ralf07 10y ago
Easy fix. Number pad should come up with numbers in different random order each time.
- bch 10y agoThat'll break for people who use "shapes" on the keypad.
- knodi123 10y agocan't fix everything in one go. but a shape plus a fingerprint ought to keep out anyone except cat burglars and security researchers, at least for the moment.
- jasonkostempski 10y agoThat solution is even easier, take away the shapes option.
- function_seven 10y agoIt's not an option. It's what some people implement themselves when coming up with a PIN. Like "square" (4578) or "Z" (1379) or "triangle" (2792), etc. That being said, I don't think the loss of shape ability would be that big of a deal. Neither do I think this is something that needs to be defended against.
- Dylan16807 10y agoIt is an option. Make them use a randomized keypad when setting the pin, and make them enter it three times.
- function_seven 10y agoSorry, my phrasing was confusing. I meant that the pattern input isn't an "option" that phones provide, the way GP comment interpreted it. ("Take away the shapes option") Rather that it is a way some people use keypads. I didn't intend to say a randomized keypad isn't an option.
- Dylan16807 10y agoI understood what you meant. What I'm saying is you have the chose of whether you will allow shapes to be an option. An always-random key pad makes it physically impossible to use shapes. That is "taking away the shapes option". It's not just the way some people use keypads. You can stop them from doing it on your keypad.
- function_seven 10y agoAh, ok. Well I totally agree.
- __s 10y agoImagine numpad in your mind to play shape on to extract sequence
- Insanity 10y agoI can't say if this is a serious answer or not.. But either way it does hold something potentially valuable. Show a numpad and have a "connect the numbers" passphrase, just like you draw the shame now. And you connect X numbers that you choose yourself Next you can just shuffle the numbers each time, making the pattern random whilst still using the shapes.
- megablast 10y ago> Easy fix. Is there a bigger warning phrase? I don't think so. I have been caught by this as well. When you think it is an easy fix, you haven't really looked at the problem properly yet.
- Dylan16807 10y agoExcept when the problem was solved long ago, and you're merely citing that solution. Sometimes the person asking the question hasn't looked at the problem properly yet.