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What's different to so-called 1-click hosters (rapidshare, mega, uploaded, ...)? What's your business model? How do you want to keep DMCA claims at bay? Does th

by arekkas 10y ago

What's different to so-called 1-click hosters (rapidshare, mega, uploaded, ...)? What's your business model? How do you want to keep DMCA claims at bay? Does this work mobile?

amelius 10y ago
Also: how can I trust it even if it supports encryption?
NoFile 10y ago
What's different to so-called 1-click hosters (rapidshare, mega, uploaded, ...)? The main difference is that nearly all of these hosts specialize in a specific type of storage. As an example MEGA forces all users to client-side encrypt files before uploading which is useful for sensitive files, but it comes with the cost of incompatibilities with older browsers and devices which can't decrypt/download the files. Uploaded provides lots of space for the uploaders, but then pushes all users to its premium plan. The site is ridiculously slow to use as a free user as they cap download speeds to 50 KB/s (they bump it up to a 70 KB/s if you take the time to sign-up). NoFile bundles all the perks of the different hosts and gives the user more options and fewer limits. You can upload large files and choose whether you want to password protect, encrypt or disable previews for your file while still giving the downloaders speeds of at least 2 MB/s. It's just a simple file host that allows you to share files without having to worry about the downloaders being infected with a virus, not being able to download What's your business model? At the moment there is no revenue source. As costs for the hosting go up, there will be a more "humane" premium plan added in the future, but it will targeted to very frequent users and as a free users you won't be affected by the changes. How do you want to keep DMCA claims at bay? If a valid DMCA request is sent in together with a link then we will be forced to respect the content creator and take the link down. Does this work mobile? This works on every single device regardless of whether you have Javascript enabled or not. If you however enable the client-side encryption feature (currently in BETA) which is disabled by default then users on older browsers and devices won't be able to download your file.
- ferbivore 10y ago
  At the moment there is no revenue source. So what makes you think your fate will be any different than that of all the other free file hosts that have had to resort to advertising in order to survive?
  - NoFile 10y ago
    The site will simply not operate with large margins like other sites. The cost of keeping the servers and development running will be covered by a premium plan that's targeted to heavy users.
    - ferbivore 10y ago
      Isn't storing and serving terabytes of stuff pretty expensive? How many heavy users do you think you'll manage to win over in the first place, much less convince them to pay for the privilege of uploading their 100GB of illicit car diagnostic software to your website? Do you have an actual niche you plan to target? I don't mean to be negative, it's just that I've seen the transition from free to freemium to ad-supported to Rapidshare to dead happen over and over again. These services don't seem to operate with large margins - from the outside, it looks more like all of them are on the brink of bankruptcy.
      - popey456963 10y ago
        I generally see prices of 2 cents per gigabyte per month for active storage, even less, most under half a cent per gigabyte per month for long-term archival. Assuming there were willing to fork out 10 dollars a month, they would be able to get around a terabyte of storage. Lets imagine our average citizen uploads quarter of a gigabyte, that means 4,000 visitors uploading files per $10 client. Assuming you can keep other costs really low, it's not too outrageously expensive.
        skrowl 10y ago
        You're forgetting the transfer / bandwidth costs.
pjc50 10y ago
These are the essential questions. The technical side of filesharing is easy. The legal and economical side is not.

by arekkas 10y ago

What's different to so-called 1-click hosters (rapidshare, mega, uploaded, ...)? What's your business model? How do you want to keep DMCA claims at bay? Does this work mobile?

amelius 10y ago

Also: how can I trust it even if it supports encryption?

NoFile 10y ago

What's different to so-called 1-click hosters (rapidshare, mega, uploaded, ...)? The main difference is that nearly all of these hosts specialize in a specific type of storage. As an example MEGA forces all users to client-side encrypt files before uploading which is useful for sensitive files, but it comes with the cost of incompatibilities with older browsers and devices which can't decrypt/download the files. Uploaded provides lots of space for the uploaders, but then pushes all users to its premium plan. The site is ridiculously slow to use as a free user as they cap download speeds to 50 KB/s (they bump it up to a 70 KB/s if you take the time to sign-up). NoFile bundles all the perks of the different hosts and gives the user more options and fewer limits. You can upload large files and choose whether you want to password protect, encrypt or disable previews for your file while still giving the downloaders speeds of at least 2 MB/s. It's just a simple file host that allows you to share files without having to worry about the downloaders being infected with a virus, not being able to download What's your business model? At the moment there is no revenue source. As costs for the hosting go up, there will be a more "humane" premium plan added in the future, but it will targeted to very frequent users and as a free users you won't be affected by the changes. How do you want to keep DMCA claims at bay? If a valid DMCA request is sent in together with a link then we will be forced to respect the content creator and take the link down. Does this work mobile? This works on every single device regardless of whether you have Javascript enabled or not. If you however enable the client-side encryption feature (currently in BETA) which is disabled by default then users on older browsers and devices won't be able to download your file.

ferbivore 10y ago
At the moment there is no revenue source. So what makes you think your fate will be any different than that of all the other free file hosts that have had to resort to advertising in order to survive?
- NoFile 10y ago
  The site will simply not operate with large margins like other sites. The cost of keeping the servers and development running will be covered by a premium plan that's targeted to heavy users.
  - ferbivore 10y ago
    Isn't storing and serving terabytes of stuff pretty expensive? How many heavy users do you think you'll manage to win over in the first place, much less convince them to pay for the privilege of uploading their 100GB of illicit car diagnostic software to your website? Do you have an actual niche you plan to target? I don't mean to be negative, it's just that I've seen the transition from free to freemium to ad-supported to Rapidshare to dead happen over and over again. These services don't seem to operate with large margins - from the outside, it looks more like all of them are on the brink of bankruptcy.
    - popey456963 10y ago
      I generally see prices of 2 cents per gigabyte per month for active storage, even less, most under half a cent per gigabyte per month for long-term archival. Assuming there were willing to fork out 10 dollars a month, they would be able to get around a terabyte of storage. Lets imagine our average citizen uploads quarter of a gigabyte, that means 4,000 visitors uploading files per $10 client. Assuming you can keep other costs really low, it's not too outrageously expensive.
      - skrowl 10y ago
        You're forgetting the transfer / bandwidth costs.

pjc50 10y ago

These are the essential questions. The technical side of filesharing is easy. The legal and economical side is not.