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There is no data collection by default. Everything is opt-in. The only information we communicate is what you opt into. The browser history stays in your browse

There is no data collection by default. Everything is opt-in. The only information we communicate is what you opt into. The browser history stays in your browser and is not sent to Apozy. If you're opted into privacy scoring it sends only the FQDN of the current site to our service. We conduct privacy scoring on the server side because it would slow down the browser otherwise. If you're opted into community protection, CSP violations are sent with the URL. This allows us to detect undiscovered malicious sites and share them back to the community. Currently we have no plan to share any information to monetize on the consumer end. We make money by enabling businesses to control fine grain permissions on corporate rollouts.

koolba 10y ago
> There is no data collection by default. Everything is opt-in. The only information we communicate is what you opt into. The browser history stays in your browser and is not sent to Apozy. Maybe I'm not getting how this works, but how can a service like this function without sending the URL (or FQDN etc) to a remote service? It's too much data to have the entire map of all servers on the internet bundled locally (probably a pain to update too...). That said, what does it mean to use this plugin but not opt-in? Is that possible, or are you referring to users opt-in as part of the install?
- rickdeaconx 10y ago
  We don't need to send any information to our service to protect you from bad sites because that is handled locally. The browser history already exists so the load on your machine is the same with or without Apozy. We use the headers to make it efficient for a large number of sites - 1M+ Using the extension without opting in means you don't see site privacy grades but you're still protected using a Trust on First Use model of security created with your browsing history.
  - koolba 10y ago
    > We don't need to send any information to our service to protect you from bad sites because that is handled locally. The browser history already exists so the load on your machine is the same with or without Apozy. We use the headers to make it efficient for a large number of sites - 1M+ Okay so the local version is comparing the user's current page vs. the sites they've gone to prior? And if it seems off based on some heuristics it flags the page. Interesting idea. Wouldn't work for me though as I have my browser set to nuke everything each time it's closed. > Using the extension without opting in means you don't see site privacy grades but you're still protected using a Trust on First Use model of security created with your browsing history. I originally thought it was just this piece which would need some type of client / server interaction to either fetch the "bad lists" or send the current URL/FQDN for validation.
    - uzay 10y ago
      > Wouldn't work for me though as I have my browser set to nuke everything each time it's closed. If you don't nuke your local storage, it should still work. I do suspect it may be more annoying without any browser history to go on because there's no model built, so you have to 'prime the pump' a little more than a user who has history would have to. -Erhan
      - koolba 10y ago
        My setup nukes everything. Each time my browser starts it's as a fresh install with no browser history, local storage, cache, etc.
      - tptacek 10y ago
        Are you storing a shadow browser history in localStorage?
        koolba 10y ago
        I would imagine it's either that or they're somehow querying localStorage for the existence of any data for a given domain to indicate that you've been there before (which obviously wouldn't work for sites that don't use localStorage).

koolba 10y ago

> There is no data collection by default. Everything is opt-in. The only information we communicate is what you opt into. The browser history stays in your browser and is not sent to Apozy. Maybe I'm not getting how this works, but how can a service like this function without sending the URL (or FQDN etc) to a remote service? It's too much data to have the entire map of all servers on the internet bundled locally (probably a pain to update too...). That said, what does it mean to use this plugin but not opt-in? Is that possible, or are you referring to users opt-in as part of the install?

rickdeaconx 10y ago
We don't need to send any information to our service to protect you from bad sites because that is handled locally. The browser history already exists so the load on your machine is the same with or without Apozy. We use the headers to make it efficient for a large number of sites - 1M+ Using the extension without opting in means you don't see site privacy grades but you're still protected using a Trust on First Use model of security created with your browsing history.
- koolba 10y ago
  > We don't need to send any information to our service to protect you from bad sites because that is handled locally. The browser history already exists so the load on your machine is the same with or without Apozy. We use the headers to make it efficient for a large number of sites - 1M+ Okay so the local version is comparing the user's current page vs. the sites they've gone to prior? And if it seems off based on some heuristics it flags the page. Interesting idea. Wouldn't work for me though as I have my browser set to nuke everything each time it's closed. > Using the extension without opting in means you don't see site privacy grades but you're still protected using a Trust on First Use model of security created with your browsing history. I originally thought it was just this piece which would need some type of client / server interaction to either fetch the "bad lists" or send the current URL/FQDN for validation.
  - uzay 10y ago
    > Wouldn't work for me though as I have my browser set to nuke everything each time it's closed. If you don't nuke your local storage, it should still work. I do suspect it may be more annoying without any browser history to go on because there's no model built, so you have to 'prime the pump' a little more than a user who has history would have to. -Erhan
    - koolba 10y ago
      My setup nukes everything. Each time my browser starts it's as a fresh install with no browser history, local storage, cache, etc.
    - tptacek 10y ago
      Are you storing a shadow browser history in localStorage?
      - koolba 10y ago
        I would imagine it's either that or they're somehow querying localStorage for the existence of any data for a given domain to indicate that you've been there before (which obviously wouldn't work for sites that don't use localStorage).