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If I saw a manager do what she described, no matter how high up the food chain he was, I'd frog march him to HR myself. I don't even care if they fire me for i

If I saw a manager do what she described, no matter how high up the food chain he was, I'd frog march him to HR myself. I don't even care if they fire me for it. We don't tolerate stuff like this in this century.

aorloff 10y ago
I know. What I'm struck by in all this is that much of Uber's staff must be really junior. Not just the assholes at the center of these stories, but everyone else around these incidents. Which kind of contradicts the idea that they are a bunch of high performers.
- xapata 10y ago
  I had much the same thought. It's far easier to death march the youth. Try the same management style on someone older and they'd simply quit.
  - lokedhs 10y ago
    Are there any avail statistics on their age distribution? Based on what I've read, it seems like people over 30 is in a minority, not to mention the impossibility to find anyone over 40.
    - xapata 10y ago
      That'd be hard to find in a public company, let alone private.
revscat 10y ago
Have you seen who is President these days?
- zepto 10y ago
  Putin
  - marcos123 10y ago
    Putin is the president of Russia. Trump is the president of the United States.
    - danenania 10y ago
      Thanks for clearing that up. It's getting pretty hard to tell the difference.
    - deleted 10y ago
      [deleted]
- ralfd 10y ago
  To be fair, it is more nuanced. While everyone knows Trump "is sexist and makes comments and stuff like that" (quote from the linked article) at the same time he has glowing testimonials by women who worked for him and who he promoted to top jobs in a "boys club" industry. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-a-champion-of-women-his-female-employees-think-so/2015/11/23/7eafac80-88da-11e5-9a07-453018f9a0ec_story.html?utm_term=.158acb37b52e https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-a-champ... > The picture many current and former employees paint stands in contrast to the blustering controversies prompted by Trump’s comments since he hit the campaign trail. .... Those who have worked for Trump say looks aren’t everything. He is more interested in hiring smart people, regardless of gender, they say, and that has led Trump for decades to rely on strong, assertive women both as gatekeepers and as advisers. Several of Trump’s female employees said he fostered a positive work environment.
  - erikpukinskis 10y ago
    > While everyone knows Trump "is sexist and makes comments and stuff like that" (quote from the linked article) at the same time he has glowing testimonials by women who worked for him and who he promoted to top jobs in a "boys club" industry. Finish the sentence please? Are you suggesting that one cancels the other out? Or that maybe he's just a great guy after all and just the victim of smear campaigns?
fencepost 10y ago
Probably only until it became obvious that HR was suffering from the corporate equivalent of 995.81 (battered person syndrome) and will give a response of "Oh, he's a good person and has never done this before and I'm sure he'll never do it again, and if we rock the boat we'll be targeted as well." Frankly I think Uber has long passed the point where I expect to start hearing about leaked recordings and cellphone videos of this kind of thing instead.
- amputect 10y ago
  It's even better when it's "Oh, he's a good person and has never done this before and I'm sure he'll never do it again" followed by studiously failing to document the incident so that every time is the first time.

aorloff 10y ago

I know. What I'm struck by in all this is that much of Uber's staff must be really junior. Not just the assholes at the center of these stories, but everyone else around these incidents. Which kind of contradicts the idea that they are a bunch of high performers.

xapata 10y ago
I had much the same thought. It's far easier to death march the youth. Try the same management style on someone older and they'd simply quit.
- lokedhs 10y ago
  Are there any avail statistics on their age distribution? Based on what I've read, it seems like people over 30 is in a minority, not to mention the impossibility to find anyone over 40.
  - xapata 10y ago
    That'd be hard to find in a public company, let alone private.

revscat 10y ago

Have you seen who is President these days?

zepto 10y ago
Putin
- marcos123 10y ago
  Putin is the president of Russia. Trump is the president of the United States.
  - danenania 10y ago
    Thanks for clearing that up. It's getting pretty hard to tell the difference.
  - deleted 10y ago
    [deleted]
ralfd 10y ago
To be fair, it is more nuanced. While everyone knows Trump "is sexist and makes comments and stuff like that" (quote from the linked article) at the same time he has glowing testimonials by women who worked for him and who he promoted to top jobs in a "boys club" industry. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-a-champion-of-women-his-female-employees-think-so/2015/11/23/7eafac80-88da-11e5-9a07-453018f9a0ec_story.html?utm_term=.158acb37b52e https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-a-champ... > The picture many current and former employees paint stands in contrast to the blustering controversies prompted by Trump’s comments since he hit the campaign trail. .... Those who have worked for Trump say looks aren’t everything. He is more interested in hiring smart people, regardless of gender, they say, and that has led Trump for decades to rely on strong, assertive women both as gatekeepers and as advisers. Several of Trump’s female employees said he fostered a positive work environment.
- erikpukinskis 10y ago
  > While everyone knows Trump "is sexist and makes comments and stuff like that" (quote from the linked article) at the same time he has glowing testimonials by women who worked for him and who he promoted to top jobs in a "boys club" industry. Finish the sentence please? Are you suggesting that one cancels the other out? Or that maybe he's just a great guy after all and just the victim of smear campaigns?

fencepost 10y ago

Probably only until it became obvious that HR was suffering from the corporate equivalent of 995.81 (battered person syndrome) and will give a response of "Oh, he's a good person and has never done this before and I'm sure he'll never do it again, and if we rock the boat we'll be targeted as well." Frankly I think Uber has long passed the point where I expect to start hearing about leaked recordings and cellphone videos of this kind of thing instead.

amputect 10y ago
It's even better when it's "Oh, he's a good person and has never done this before and I'm sure he'll never do it again" followed by studiously failing to document the incident so that every time is the first time.