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Canada is not a free society. There are various restrictions on pornography, just like the US for example. They have no problem with censorship. Edit: to be cl

by ue_ 10y ago

Canada is not a free society. There are various restrictions on pornography, just like the US for example. They have no problem with censorship. Edit: to be clear, I am referring to written or drawn pornography depicting fictional minors engaged in sexual acts. Not photography or video of child abuse, or rape porn, or even bestiality (although I am against the lattermost item being illegal too).

whytaka 10y ago
I can say with experience that access to pornography produced by consensual adults is largely unhindered here. If this is how you draw the line between free and not-free, I can only imagine that your definition of freedom is anarchy.
- ue_ 10y ago
  >I can say with experience that access to pornography produced by consensual adults is largely unhindered here. Then you're wrong. Drawn pornography that appears to show fictional characters who appear to be under the age of 18 is illegal, and there have been prosecutions under this law. Even such written material is illegal. My definition of true freedom is anarchy (which is why I am an anarachist), but I accept that there is a different definition under the current liberal democracies of the world, and even by those standards, Canada is not free.
astrodust 10y ago
Canada has some pretty minor restrictions. It's not as liberal as Japan but it's not as conservative as Australia.
- ue_ 10y ago
  I wouldn't class being put in prison for mere possession of a drawing to be pretty minor.
  - astrodust 10y ago
    These cases are astonishingly rare in Canada. Meanwhile Australia makes large swaths of the internet illegal on the off chance cartoon pornography might show up.
edblarney 10y ago
Of all the 'freedoms' we can worry about, as a Canadian, not having the right to see 'hand drawn child porn' is not remotely one that I am concerned about. The 'real' issue of freedom in Canada is that it's basically the only country in the world wherein it's illegal to pay a doctor to help you. That's actually pretty crazy when you start to think about it.
- aianus 10y ago
  > That's actually pretty crazy when you start to think about it. Sucks for the doctors (< 1% of the population) but for patients nobody is stopping you from going to the US/Mexico/Thailand and paying for care there.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > The 'real' issue of freedom in Canada is that it's basically the only country in the world wherein it's illegal to pay a doctor to help you. That's actually pretty crazy when you start to think about it. It's illegal to privstely pay all kinds of people providing public services to help you all ocer the world; Canada defining medicine as that kind of public service is atypical, but I don't see how it's "crazy".
  - guyzero 10y ago
    This is not true. Doctors cannot bill both provincial systems and the patient at the same time. But there are some private doctors in Canada.
- guyzero 10y ago
  Ah, I replied to the wrong comment. "Canada is that it's basically the only country in the world wherein it's illegal to pay a doctor to help you" - this is factually untrue. There are private medical clinics in Canada. Doctors are not allowed to bill both provincial health systems as well as the patient at the same time. Geez, here's a 10 year-old article about private clinics: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/private-health-clinics-continue-to-quietly-multiply-in-ontario/article18180506/ http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/private-health-...

by ue_ 10y ago

whytaka 10y ago

I can say with experience that access to pornography produced by consensual adults is largely unhindered here. If this is how you draw the line between free and not-free, I can only imagine that your definition of freedom is anarchy.

ue_ 10y ago
>I can say with experience that access to pornography produced by consensual adults is largely unhindered here. Then you're wrong. Drawn pornography that appears to show fictional characters who appear to be under the age of 18 is illegal, and there have been prosecutions under this law. Even such written material is illegal. My definition of true freedom is anarchy (which is why I am an anarachist), but I accept that there is a different definition under the current liberal democracies of the world, and even by those standards, Canada is not free.

astrodust 10y ago

Canada has some pretty minor restrictions. It's not as liberal as Japan but it's not as conservative as Australia.

ue_ 10y ago
I wouldn't class being put in prison for mere possession of a drawing to be pretty minor.
- astrodust 10y ago
  These cases are astonishingly rare in Canada. Meanwhile Australia makes large swaths of the internet illegal on the off chance cartoon pornography might show up.

edblarney 10y ago

Of all the 'freedoms' we can worry about, as a Canadian, not having the right to see 'hand drawn child porn' is not remotely one that I am concerned about. The 'real' issue of freedom in Canada is that it's basically the only country in the world wherein it's illegal to pay a doctor to help you. That's actually pretty crazy when you start to think about it.

aianus 10y ago
> That's actually pretty crazy when you start to think about it. Sucks for the doctors (< 1% of the population) but for patients nobody is stopping you from going to the US/Mexico/Thailand and paying for care there.
dragonwriter 10y ago
> The 'real' issue of freedom in Canada is that it's basically the only country in the world wherein it's illegal to pay a doctor to help you. That's actually pretty crazy when you start to think about it. It's illegal to privstely pay all kinds of people providing public services to help you all ocer the world; Canada defining medicine as that kind of public service is atypical, but I don't see how it's "crazy".
- guyzero 10y ago
  This is not true. Doctors cannot bill both provincial systems and the patient at the same time. But there are some private doctors in Canada.
guyzero 10y ago
Ah, I replied to the wrong comment. "Canada is that it's basically the only country in the world wherein it's illegal to pay a doctor to help you" - this is factually untrue. There are private medical clinics in Canada. Doctors are not allowed to bill both provincial health systems as well as the patient at the same time. Geez, here's a 10 year-old article about private clinics: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/private-health-clinics-continue-to-quietly-multiply-in-ontario/article18180506/ http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/private-health-...