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This is the end. If we think this guy's gonna listen to the people, we're completely wrong.

MrZongle2 10y ago
This is why getting laws passed, instead of relying on executive orders and the whims of bureaucrats in power at the time, is so crucial.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  The same faction that opposes net neutrality in the FCC also controls both Houses of Congress plus the White House, in fact, the change in the latter that completes that control is why they control the FCC, not an unrelated independent event. So laws would be no less vulnerable than FCC regulations.
  - repiret 10y ago
    But eight years ago, the opposing faction had even more control. They could have enshrined net neutrality in law then.
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    - dragonwriter 10y ago
      And then it could be repealed now. For the same reason the the FCC approach will be.
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  - Retric 10y ago
    They have 'control' but can't get past a filibuster without risking having all their changes revoked the next time they lose control.
- spaced_out 10y ago
  That's not going to happen as long as there are at least 40 Republicans in the senate. They used a filibuster to block a moderate Supreme Court nominee, you think they'll even consider allowing an internet reform bill to come to a vote?
  - MrZongle2 10y ago
    How ever did things get made into law in the past? Compromise. Something that neither of the two major parties seem interested in anymore. It is that, not the allocation of seats to a party in Congress, which is why things haven't gotten done.
    - abootstrapper 10y ago
      The Republicans are not interested in compromise. They've pulled the Dems so far right, they're practically center now.
      - aanm1988 10y ago
        and then paint them all as crazy left wing idiots who want to censor everything. Then they whine that democrats are jerks when dems call them anything.
        superioritycplx 10y ago
        Calling names is fine. It's the violent riots that are getting annoying.
        jackmott 10y ago
        going to be more and more of them until the people demand this president is gone.
      - setpatchaddress 10y ago
        Indeed, the Democrats have been right of center for some time. Obamacare is essentially identical to plans previously proposed by Republicans.
- epistasis 10y ago
  Yes, that might be good, but it's a pipe dream at the moment. Further, having congress deal with such issues is open to far more political manipulation. Having people who are competent at their job in regulatory positions seems just as important as having Congress do their job for them.
draw_down 10y ago
It's not the end. Things are just degrading, boringly, as they have been.
transfire 10y ago
Oh, it might just well happen. The engineers that actually make this stuff work generally know whats up, and if things start to turn too sour, just watch them bring the whole damn net to a screeching halt. It'll make the SOPA blackout of 2012 look like daylight.

This is why getting laws passed, instead of relying on executive orders and the whims of bureaucrats in power at the time, is so crucial.

dragonwriter 10y ago
The same faction that opposes net neutrality in the FCC also controls both Houses of Congress plus the White House, in fact, the change in the latter that completes that control is why they control the FCC, not an unrelated independent event. So laws would be no less vulnerable than FCC regulations.
- repiret 10y ago
  But eight years ago, the opposing faction had even more control. They could have enshrined net neutrality in law then.
  - deleted 10y ago
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  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    And then it could be repealed now. For the same reason the the FCC approach will be.
- deleted 10y ago
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- Retric 10y ago
  They have 'control' but can't get past a filibuster without risking having all their changes revoked the next time they lose control.
spaced_out 10y ago
That's not going to happen as long as there are at least 40 Republicans in the senate. They used a filibuster to block a moderate Supreme Court nominee, you think they'll even consider allowing an internet reform bill to come to a vote?
- MrZongle2 10y ago
  How ever did things get made into law in the past? Compromise. Something that neither of the two major parties seem interested in anymore. It is that, not the allocation of seats to a party in Congress, which is why things haven't gotten done.
  - abootstrapper 10y ago
    The Republicans are not interested in compromise. They've pulled the Dems so far right, they're practically center now.
    - aanm1988 10y ago
      and then paint them all as crazy left wing idiots who want to censor everything. Then they whine that democrats are jerks when dems call them anything.
      - superioritycplx 10y ago
        Calling names is fine. It's the violent riots that are getting annoying.
        jackmott 10y ago
        going to be more and more of them until the people demand this president is gone.
    - setpatchaddress 10y ago
      Indeed, the Democrats have been right of center for some time. Obamacare is essentially identical to plans previously proposed by Republicans.
epistasis 10y ago
Yes, that might be good, but it's a pipe dream at the moment. Further, having congress deal with such issues is open to far more political manipulation. Having people who are competent at their job in regulatory positions seems just as important as having Congress do their job for them.

draw_down 10y ago

It's not the end. Things are just degrading, boringly, as they have been.

transfire 10y ago

Oh, it might just well happen. The engineers that actually make this stuff work generally know whats up, and if things start to turn too sour, just watch them bring the whole damn net to a screeching halt. It'll make the SOPA blackout of 2012 look like daylight.