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Relevant WSJ article: Trump Is Right: Sweden’s Embrace of Refugees Isn’t Working https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-right-swedens-embrace-of-refugees-isnt-w

Relevant WSJ article: Trump Is Right: Sweden’s Embrace of Refugees Isn’t Working https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-right-swedens-embrace-of-refugees-isnt-working-1487807010 https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-right-swedens-embrace-...

johansch 10y ago
And: http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/how-sweden-became-an-example-of-how-not-to-handle-immigration/ http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/how-sweden-became-an-exam... "How Sweden became an example of how not to handle immigration" By Tove Lifvendahl, political editor-in-chief at Svenska Dagbladet. (She gets away with saying these things since she is adopted from Korea.)
worldsayshi 10y ago
Written by the leaders of Sweden's "alt-right" (for lack of better name) party the Sweden Democrats.
- johansch 10y ago
  They are however much, much more sane than the US alt-right. At least at the top level. Out of the eight parties currently represented in the Swedish parliament they are currently the most popular party, polling at 26.9%. Source: http://nyheteridag.se/nytt-sd-rekord-i-sentio-pa-otroliga-269-procent-moderaterna-stortdyker-till-samsta-nagonsin/ http://nyheteridag.se/nytt-sd-rekord-i-sentio-pa-otroliga-26...
  - coldsmoke 10y ago
    According to one polling institute, yes. But in the others they are the third largest party at around 17 % which in it self is alarmingly high.[1] And Nyheter Idag is basically the Breitbart of Sweden. [1] https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinionsm%C3%A4tningar_inf%C3%B6r_riksdagsvalet_i_Sverige_2018 https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinionsm%C3%A4tningar_inf%C3%... (In Swedish, but the stats don't need translating. SD denotes the Sweden Democrats)
    - johansch 10y ago
      So why are you attacking the news site publishing these polls ? Are you saying that they are lying about the data? Anyway, this is a good resource: http://status.st/ http://status.st/
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alkonaut 10y ago
The question is, what does "working" mean? Those refugees are mostly good people. They escaped war. That must count as a glorious success? Whether Sweden is better off or slightly worse off (yes we have more crime, more public expenses, etc) is secondary. Obviously there is a limit to what Swedes will accept - but even debating this issue without acknowledging the positive side of it (people being safe) is completely mental.
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johansch 10y ago

And: http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/how-sweden-became-an-example-of-how-not-to-handle-immigration/ http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/how-sweden-became-an-exam... "How Sweden became an example of how not to handle immigration" By Tove Lifvendahl, political editor-in-chief at Svenska Dagbladet. (She gets away with saying these things since she is adopted from Korea.)

worldsayshi 10y ago

Written by the leaders of Sweden's "alt-right" (for lack of better name) party the Sweden Democrats.

johansch 10y ago
They are however much, much more sane than the US alt-right. At least at the top level. Out of the eight parties currently represented in the Swedish parliament they are currently the most popular party, polling at 26.9%. Source: http://nyheteridag.se/nytt-sd-rekord-i-sentio-pa-otroliga-269-procent-moderaterna-stortdyker-till-samsta-nagonsin/ http://nyheteridag.se/nytt-sd-rekord-i-sentio-pa-otroliga-26...
- coldsmoke 10y ago
  According to one polling institute, yes. But in the others they are the third largest party at around 17 % which in it self is alarmingly high.[1] And Nyheter Idag is basically the Breitbart of Sweden. [1] https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinionsm%C3%A4tningar_inf%C3%B6r_riksdagsvalet_i_Sverige_2018 https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinionsm%C3%A4tningar_inf%C3%... (In Swedish, but the stats don't need translating. SD denotes the Sweden Democrats)
  - johansch 10y ago
    So why are you attacking the news site publishing these polls ? Are you saying that they are lying about the data? Anyway, this is a good resource: http://status.st/ http://status.st/
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alkonaut 10y ago

The question is, what does "working" mean? Those refugees are mostly good people. They escaped war. That must count as a glorious success? Whether Sweden is better off or slightly worse off (yes we have more crime, more public expenses, etc) is secondary. Obviously there is a limit to what Swedes will accept - but even debating this issue without acknowledging the positive side of it (people being safe) is completely mental.

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