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Wiping your stuff does no good at all. As pointed out in the article, they know who is on the flight hours before you land. They'll know you have a Facebook pro
by deong 10y ago
Wiping your stuff does no good at all. As pointed out in the article, they know who is on the flight hours before you land. They'll know you have a Facebook profile. The difference between having a laptop already logged into Facebook and a wiped laptop with no data is quite literally the time it takes them to tell you to type in the password for them. Ignorance isn't an escape clause.
Which is, I think, the same problem Maciel's solution faces. Border patrol can possibly just see that you've enabled "trip mode" (by the anemic presence) and put you back on a plane. You're welcome to try again after your trip mode expires, but if they want to see your account, there is, as sure as mathematical logic, no possible "out". Anything you do to deny them that access can be grounds to refuse you entry (if you're a non-citizen).
You're right that the only real solution is a political one. Unfortunately, there are no political solutions to any problem anymore. Not in the US at least. The days when government was even interested in solving problems are gone and I doubt they're ever coming back.
- TillE 10y ago> The difference between having a laptop already logged into Facebook and a wiped laptop with no data is quite literally the time it takes them to tell you to type in the password for them. No, that's not how it works. Border agents are entitled to "search" your laptop. They can't force you to retrieve arbitrary data from a remote server. All this with the caveat that they can, of course, refuse non-citizens for basically any reason.
- tptacek 10y agoIf you're an at-risk traveler, you'd enable travel-lock pretty much as soon as you decide on your itinerary, potentially before you ever get on an airline manifest. The thing I think I see a lot of people missing here is that travel-lock doesn't wipe or disable your accounts; it just restricts history and breadth. For a lot of people, I think these services will get easier and more pleasant to use while travel-locked, so it's relatively painless to give yourself a generous margin before departing and after arriving.
- kasey_junk 10y agoI'd turn this feature on my phone right now for gmail just for "lost phone" mitigation.
- tptacek 10y agoThe problem with that is that CBP can (and surely soon will) compel travelers to log into their accounts from CBP's own equipment.
- kasey_junk 10y agoSure. But a setting that said "always on mobile" and another one where they schedule it for me based on my airline emails makes uptake faster. And I want that when I'm traveling anywhere. [later] we want to normalize the idea that access permission to our data is context aware based on what we are doing. To me this is true independent of border crossings. For instance there are things I want in the cloud for backup purposes that I don't want be able to access from anywhere but home normally.
- tptacek 10y agoYes! Sorry, we were agreeing but I well-actuallied you.
- pvg 10y agoInto their gmail accounts? That seems a little unlikely short of 'looking for any excuse to deny you entry' and there's no technical defense against that.
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- username223 10y ago> The difference between having a laptop already logged into Facebook and a wiped laptop with no data is quite literally the time it takes them to tell you to type in the password for them. I have no idea what most of my passwords are. They're complex strings of ASCII stored in an encrypted file on my personal machine and a few backups. If I travel internationally, I can just leave my personal machine at home.
- jethro_tell 10y agoI don't think that gets you entry into the country though. There's not much difference between can't and won't. I suppose, that if you were a citizen, you could take that up with a judge, but if you're not, you don't even get the opportunity.