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I have lived in the general area of what is now the Lux bar for over 10 years. I see this sort of thing happen every single summer in New York City. "J1" is wha
by pacemkr 16y ago
I have lived in the general area of what is now the Lux bar for over 10 years. I see this sort of thing happen every single summer in New York City. "J1" is what people call these girls and the story goes like this:
They come here on work sponsorships which are almost never really there (they often dont know that). Then one of three things happens -- or all. They end up working in the restaurant business as hostesses, bus "boy" positions, eventually waitresses. They start sleeping with some guy who takes them around, pays for everything, and possibly provides a place to live. If they want to make real money, they start dancing (strip or go-go). At the end of the summer their Visa expires and I'd say about 70% leave and 30% stay.
So... it probably wouldn't have been sex trafficking, this is all way too dramatized. The J1 girls who come here are often offered to dance to make more money. And they either refuse and struggle to find a job in some crappy lounge or restaurant or they go dance and make pretty decent money. I'm not saying that this is a wonderful situation, it makes me hate living in this city, but its so common and a far cry from being locked in a room to be sex slaves.
I known some of these girls that are still here and still dance, and know a few that are still here and still work at lounges. Last year, a friend of mine was walking her dog and met two J1 students on the board walk at Brighton Beach sitting on their luggage. They had to make the same trip from somewhere to New York for a job. Of course the job wasn't really there. My friend let the couple stay in her living room for most of the summer and they eventually found a job at a restaurant.
Living in Brooklyn, this is a fact of live. Its nice that these particular girls have gotten some help, but starting this week "the J1s are coming" and this sort of thing is going to happen a thousand times over in the next couple of weeks to a month. Non of it was surprising to read... which, I guess, is pretty depressing considering that I live in the middle of it.
- ErrantX 16y agoYeh, as I was reading it the same thoughts came to mind - not exactly trafficking but one step behind it. If they had been trafficked they'd probably not stand a chance. It's possibly not as big a problem in the US as, really, flying girls out is pretty impossible but in the UK (and I guess the rest of Europe) there is a problem with girls being brought in from Eastern Europe etc. All with false papers. I'd say I see one, maybe two, cases a month where we are investigating visa forging. It's highly organised and "well" executed.
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- wooster 16y agoBeing coerced (psychologically, physically, or otherwise) into sleeping with someone who "pays for everything" or into stripping for money is sex trafficking.
- asdflkj 16y ago"Coerced psychologically" means precisely nothing. Everyone does everything because they are coerced psychologically to do it. If you object to this particular form of psychological coercion, explain why.
- telemachos 16y ago"Coerced psychologically" means precisely nothing. Everyone does everything because they are coerced psychologically to do it. If you object to this particular form of psychological coercion, explain why. No, it doesn't mean nothing. No, everyone does not do everything because they are coerced psychologically. The second claim - everyone does everything because they are coerced psychologically - is a great example of a statement that is either false or vacuous. False, if you interpret "coerced" in a non-trivial sense. Vacuous, if by "coerced", you mean no more than "because they have (some) desire or inclination." Compulsion is real. Psychological compulsion is real. If you have never been driven to do something by fear or desperation, yet still very much against your will, I'm glad for you. But that doesn't mean everyone is so lucky.
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