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I saw the reality of this on a job posting the other day, the recruiter wrote that applicants with github work will be given preference. This is pretty stupid r

I saw the reality of this on a job posting the other day, the recruiter wrote that applicants with github work will be given preference. This is pretty stupid really, a lot of really good developers are working on projects that cannot be shared or discussed or open sourced. Just because you haven't had the time between 1am and 3am to contribute to an open source project doesn't mean you suck as a developer.

tobiaslins 10y ago
You don't need to make your source public. Just check it in as private repository and your contribution graph is going to be filled. Some recruiter can now see that you work a lot - probably also on weekends and so on. A good looking github contribution graph looks kind of professional, also if you have starred some repositorys (which probably means you are active and love what you are doing)
- RodericDay 10y ago
  > Some recruiter can now see that you work a lot - probably also on weekends and so on. WTF how is this a good thing?
  - tobiaslins 10y ago
    A developer who loves his job/hobby also codes in his free time (because it is also a hobby) Of course, if being a develoepr is only a "job" - this sucks. For example, I am coding 8h+ a day during my fulltime job. When I am back at home/weekends, I also spend a lot of my time to code private projects instead of playing games
    - ghaff 10y ago
      What complete BS. Someone can certainly enjoy their job--and software development is certainly nothing special--without also wanting to spend their nights and weekends doing the same thing. For that matter, I'd probably take such a narrow set of interests as something of a disqualification.
      - tobiaslins 10y ago
        I realized that passion to your work has a huge impact to your application. If you are software developer (what I excect) and have a job - yeah it is a valid opinion. If you don't want to code in your free time it is up to you. It doesn't mean that you have a narrow set of interests. It just mean I use a part of my free time to code. Others are watching tv, playing games or doing other time wasting stuff.
        QuantumGravy 10y ago
        The fact that the only non-coding activities outside work you can list fall under "other time wasting stuff" speaks volumes.
        peruvian 10y ago
        And others are spending time with friends, families, taking care of their sick relatives, their kids, going hiking, reading, volunteering, etc. There's no need to say X is "wasting time" in such an objective tone. For many, spending hours on the weekend doing programming is a waste of time (and it can be, most of the time). For you, it's fun. For others, they just don't have time to do it. No need to judge or expect others to live the same life as you.
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- evan_ 10y ago
  I only just noticed that you can make private contributions show up on your contribution graph- still there are lots of reasons stuff might not show up on there. https://help.github.com/articles/why-are-my-contributions-not-showing-up-on-my-profile/ https://help.github.com/articles/why-are-my-contributions-no...
  - tobiaslins 10y ago
    No, there is a option to enable also private activity :) https://help.github.com/articles/publicizing-or-hiding-your-private-contributions-on-your-profile/ https://help.github.com/articles/publicizing-or-hiding-your-...
  - mi100hael 10y ago
    GH definitely shows private contributions. Maybe you're using a different email for those commits?
nhumrich 10y ago
No, it doesn't mean you suck. But it does mean that those with full GitHub profiles usually spend every waking our programming. If they have e that much passion and programming hours under their belt, and you can see their code examples, the chances of hiring a false positive is a lot lower. It's all about mitigating risk. No one is saying you are worse, but hiring you is more of a risk than hiring someone such as I just mentioned above. It's harder to really know how good/passionate you are.
- ghaff 10y ago
  >It's harder to really know how good/passionate you are. Sorry, but I have to really object to this idea that programming every waking hour with great passion is a positive job qualification. Sounds more like a recipe for burnout.
  - throwanem 10y ago
    It is exactly that. Ask me how I know.
    - phkahler 10y ago
      We interviewed a guy and without prompting (that's probably off limits anyway) he told us how he's divorced and has no real social life, so working long hours for us would be just fine by him. I wasn't impressed by him to start with, but that just put the final nail in the coffin for me. Not only did it sound a bit desperate, I'd prefer someone with a healthy attitude toward work and life. The other hiring managers felt the same way.
      - throwanem 10y ago
        Marital status certainly is off-limits, and I've found a good general rule to be that anything that's impermissible for me to ask an interviewee is something that also doesn't merit mention when I'm on the other side of the table, both because to raise it puts my interlocutor in an uncomfortable position, and because such things really are not relevant in any case.
tomc1985 10y ago
Another case of the overachievers ruining everything

tobiaslins 10y ago

You don't need to make your source public. Just check it in as private repository and your contribution graph is going to be filled. Some recruiter can now see that you work a lot - probably also on weekends and so on. A good looking github contribution graph looks kind of professional, also if you have starred some repositorys (which probably means you are active and love what you are doing)

RodericDay 10y ago
> Some recruiter can now see that you work a lot - probably also on weekends and so on. WTF how is this a good thing?
- tobiaslins 10y ago
  A developer who loves his job/hobby also codes in his free time (because it is also a hobby) Of course, if being a develoepr is only a "job" - this sucks. For example, I am coding 8h+ a day during my fulltime job. When I am back at home/weekends, I also spend a lot of my time to code private projects instead of playing games
  - ghaff 10y ago
    What complete BS. Someone can certainly enjoy their job--and software development is certainly nothing special--without also wanting to spend their nights and weekends doing the same thing. For that matter, I'd probably take such a narrow set of interests as something of a disqualification.
    - tobiaslins 10y ago
      I realized that passion to your work has a huge impact to your application. If you are software developer (what I excect) and have a job - yeah it is a valid opinion. If you don't want to code in your free time it is up to you. It doesn't mean that you have a narrow set of interests. It just mean I use a part of my free time to code. Others are watching tv, playing games or doing other time wasting stuff.
      - QuantumGravy 10y ago
        The fact that the only non-coding activities outside work you can list fall under "other time wasting stuff" speaks volumes.
      - peruvian 10y ago
        And others are spending time with friends, families, taking care of their sick relatives, their kids, going hiking, reading, volunteering, etc. There's no need to say X is "wasting time" in such an objective tone. For many, spending hours on the weekend doing programming is a waste of time (and it can be, most of the time). For you, it's fun. For others, they just don't have time to do it. No need to judge or expect others to live the same life as you.
- deleted 10y ago
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evan_ 10y ago
I only just noticed that you can make private contributions show up on your contribution graph- still there are lots of reasons stuff might not show up on there. https://help.github.com/articles/why-are-my-contributions-not-showing-up-on-my-profile/ https://help.github.com/articles/why-are-my-contributions-no...
- tobiaslins 10y ago
  No, there is a option to enable also private activity :) https://help.github.com/articles/publicizing-or-hiding-your-private-contributions-on-your-profile/ https://help.github.com/articles/publicizing-or-hiding-your-...
- mi100hael 10y ago
  GH definitely shows private contributions. Maybe you're using a different email for those commits?

nhumrich 10y ago

No, it doesn't mean you suck. But it does mean that those with full GitHub profiles usually spend every waking our programming. If they have e that much passion and programming hours under their belt, and you can see their code examples, the chances of hiring a false positive is a lot lower. It's all about mitigating risk. No one is saying you are worse, but hiring you is more of a risk than hiring someone such as I just mentioned above. It's harder to really know how good/passionate you are.

ghaff 10y ago
>It's harder to really know how good/passionate you are. Sorry, but I have to really object to this idea that programming every waking hour with great passion is a positive job qualification. Sounds more like a recipe for burnout.
- throwanem 10y ago
  It is exactly that. Ask me how I know.
  - phkahler 10y ago
    We interviewed a guy and without prompting (that's probably off limits anyway) he told us how he's divorced and has no real social life, so working long hours for us would be just fine by him. I wasn't impressed by him to start with, but that just put the final nail in the coffin for me. Not only did it sound a bit desperate, I'd prefer someone with a healthy attitude toward work and life. The other hiring managers felt the same way.
    - throwanem 10y ago
      Marital status certainly is off-limits, and I've found a good general rule to be that anything that's impermissible for me to ask an interviewee is something that also doesn't merit mention when I'm on the other side of the table, both because to raise it puts my interlocutor in an uncomfortable position, and because such things really are not relevant in any case.

tomc1985 10y ago

Another case of the overachievers ruining everything