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When the AI robot overlords take over, is the discussion really about UBI, or even about income redistribution? It seems to me that when this takes place, that
by MR4D 10y ago
When the AI robot overlords take over, is the discussion really about UBI, or even about income redistribution?
It seems to me that when this takes place, that humans will quickly be regarded as little more than pets. Hear me out on this...
Does your dog care about income? No - he cares about being fed when he's hungry; not being cold and wet; being able to be entertained/rest when he wants to; to be safe from predators.
Oddly, many of those concerns are surprisingly similar to humans - we want to have food and shelter; to know our children will have a roof over their heads; to be entertained; to be safe.
Now, we all may have different thoughts on food and drink, and we have many different ideas about entertainment. But so do dogs. Some dogs are active (e.g. Jack Russell Terrier), while others are sedate (Shih-Tzu). Some sleep on our beds, and others on the floor.
So when the robots do take over, will mankind want anything more than to be kept as a good pet? For many people, the answer may very well be "no."
I wonder.
- nradov 10y agoYou might as well ask what will happen to us when the Messiah comes or when alien invaders take over the Earth. Either scenario has as much basis in scientific fact as AI robot overlords.
- MR4D 10y agoI would argue that the recent future has much more evidence for AI than aliens. Evidence for the Messiah seems to primarily come from a 2,000 year old book. Thinking about the future is an exercise in prediction. Necessarily, not all predictions would be correct.
- nradov 10y agoPlease cite your evidence. So far no one has defined a scientifically plausible development path for constructing an AGI. At this point it's just as much science fiction as a warp drive or cloning dinosaurs.
- Arizhel 10y agoI have to disagree about cloning dinosaurs. A true AI isn't even well-defined; would we even know one if we saw it? We don't even know how consciousness works in ourselves. Warp drive we can understand at a high level and identify if we saw one, but our knowledge of physics says it's impossible. It may be possible, but not according to our theories; we'll have to either come up with different theories to invent it, or if someone stumbles across is, we'll have to modify our theories to explain it. (We do have one theoretical warp drive, but it relies on negative mass IIRC.) Cloning dinosaurs isn't like that. It's completely plausible. We've already cloned sheep and other animals. I believe the main thing holding us back from cloning dinosaurs is having enough intact DNA, or maybe some other technical hurdles related to the cloning process (after all, cloning a sheep wasn't that hard since we have no shortage of existing sheep to use for incubation; we don't have existing dinosaurs for this). Cloning dinosaurs is "science fiction" the way building a habitat on the Moon is: it's completely plausible scientifically, it's just being held back by other factors. AI and warp drive are not like this.
- nradov 10y agoHa ha let me know when you have a baby T. Rex. Cloning dinosaurs is a total pipe dream by people who don't understand biology. Extracting intact DNA is just one of several impossible obstacles. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/british-scientist-clone-dinosaur-they-havent-they-wont-and-they-never-will-heres-why-9225781.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/british-scientist-...
- jelliclesfarm 10y agoI have often wondered if it will end up with AI becoming part of our collective consciousness.