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Not supported on most browsers, as opposed to what the headline suggests: http://caniuse.com/#feat=same-site-cookie-attribute http://caniuse.com/#feat=same-site

by akamaka 10y ago

Not supported on most browsers, as opposed to what the headline suggests: http://caniuse.com/#feat=same-site-cookie-attribute http://caniuse.com/#feat=same-site-cookie-attribute

gruez 10y ago
depends what he means by "most". depending what source you look at, chrome has the majority market share so even if it's the only one to implement it, it still counts as "most".
- jacquesm 10y ago
  Most browsers != the most frequently used browser in the context of an audience that develops software for a living.
- molyss 10y ago
  most : the majority of, nearly all of. "most browsers" would become "the majority of browsers". If there were 5 browsers, "the majority of 5 browsers" would be "3 browsers or more". It doesn't make any difference which ones are most used, the sentence (apparently now changed or removed) wasn't "most of the requests will be protected", or even "most users will be protected"
  - CocaKoala 10y ago
    At the same time, though, you can pretty easily make the argument that the majority of browsers is Chrome. After all, if there were five internet browsers and four of them had one user each, it would be a bit silly to say "Well, most browsers haven't implemented this feature".
    - ptx 10y ago
      But if "the majority of browsers" means "Chrome" (following your reasoning) it would be more than a little silly to ever use that comparatively convoluted phrase. You would just say "Chrome".
  - randallsquared 10y ago
    This is the same "type vs instance" issue that plagues discussions about copyright. In the sense of how effective something is at preventing errors, "most browsers" seems to map most reasonably to "most browser instances", rather than "most types of browser software".
- snarfy 10y ago
  It's this kind of mentality that led to 'This site works best in Internet Explorer'.
  - lox 10y ago
    Do you mean innovation and driving forward the web? How else do things improve?
    - gcp 10y ago
      The problem is that the sites that had that moniker tended to be old, badly written and in ignorance of the actual web standard. Firefox's tracker suggests that standardization work on the feature is ongoing. So if you implement it now, you're going to be stuck with a Chrome-only version that may or may not end up being the standard. (Usually it does, because Chrome marketshare beats objections over not well thought out features in it, aka the "IE effect")
- pjmlp 10y ago
  Chrome, aka the IE of 2017!
- pluma 10y ago
  In the US, sure: https://clicky.com/marketshare/us/web-browsers/ https://clicky.com/marketshare/us/web-browsers/ In Germany, nope: https://clicky.com/marketshare/de/web-browsers/ https://clicky.com/marketshare/de/web-browsers/ Germans sure love their Firefox. Now, that may not matter for you depending on what market you're targeting but not everyone is as lucky.
IshKebab 10y ago
Even worse, if a browser doesn't support it I guess it will default to ignoring the policy!
makmanalp 10y ago
I think this is a smart enough idea that I think most of the browsers will implement this soon, and then since most of the browsers that matter now are evergreen, most people will have it eventually.

by akamaka 10y ago

Not supported on most browsers, as opposed to what the headline suggests: http://caniuse.com/#feat=same-site-cookie-attribute http://caniuse.com/#feat=same-site-cookie-attribute

gruez 10y ago

depends what he means by "most". depending what source you look at, chrome has the majority market share so even if it's the only one to implement it, it still counts as "most".

jacquesm 10y ago
Most browsers != the most frequently used browser in the context of an audience that develops software for a living.
molyss 10y ago
most : the majority of, nearly all of. "most browsers" would become "the majority of browsers". If there were 5 browsers, "the majority of 5 browsers" would be "3 browsers or more". It doesn't make any difference which ones are most used, the sentence (apparently now changed or removed) wasn't "most of the requests will be protected", or even "most users will be protected"
- CocaKoala 10y ago
  At the same time, though, you can pretty easily make the argument that the majority of browsers is Chrome. After all, if there were five internet browsers and four of them had one user each, it would be a bit silly to say "Well, most browsers haven't implemented this feature".
  - ptx 10y ago
    But if "the majority of browsers" means "Chrome" (following your reasoning) it would be more than a little silly to ever use that comparatively convoluted phrase. You would just say "Chrome".
- randallsquared 10y ago
  This is the same "type vs instance" issue that plagues discussions about copyright. In the sense of how effective something is at preventing errors, "most browsers" seems to map most reasonably to "most browser instances", rather than "most types of browser software".
snarfy 10y ago
It's this kind of mentality that led to 'This site works best in Internet Explorer'.
- lox 10y ago
  Do you mean innovation and driving forward the web? How else do things improve?
  - gcp 10y ago
    The problem is that the sites that had that moniker tended to be old, badly written and in ignorance of the actual web standard. Firefox's tracker suggests that standardization work on the feature is ongoing. So if you implement it now, you're going to be stuck with a Chrome-only version that may or may not end up being the standard. (Usually it does, because Chrome marketshare beats objections over not well thought out features in it, aka the "IE effect")
pjmlp 10y ago
Chrome, aka the IE of 2017!
pluma 10y ago
In the US, sure: https://clicky.com/marketshare/us/web-browsers/ https://clicky.com/marketshare/us/web-browsers/ In Germany, nope: https://clicky.com/marketshare/de/web-browsers/ https://clicky.com/marketshare/de/web-browsers/ Germans sure love their Firefox. Now, that may not matter for you depending on what market you're targeting but not everyone is as lucky.

IshKebab 10y ago

Even worse, if a browser doesn't support it I guess it will default to ignoring the policy!

makmanalp 10y ago

I think this is a smart enough idea that I think most of the browsers will implement this soon, and then since most of the browsers that matter now are evergreen, most people will have it eventually.