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Because men receive worse medical treatment. Just compare how prostate and breast cancer are promoted. It also corresponds with other statistics like life expe

Because men receive worse medical treatment. Just compare how prostate and breast cancer are promoted. It also corresponds with other statistics like life expectancy, medical expenses, disposable income...

voidlogic 10y ago
>Because men receive worse medical treatment. What about an alternative... Men are less likely to seek medical treatment?
- thro1111111 10y ago
  What about both? Because it is both. Source: I am a man.
- satysin 10y ago
  As a man myself it is pretty crazy to me how many men will ignore health problems to avoid going to the doctor. I am in the UK so it doesn't even cost me anything. Yet I have had male colleagues laugh/take the piss out of me for going to the doctor. Yet I think I am the only male in the office who doesn't have some kind of chronic (or close to it) condition at 32. It seems everyone at work has back pain or some other chronic pain because they ignored it when it could have been solved easily. Now some of them need surgery for trapped nerves or slipped discs but don't treat it still! Stupidity IMHO. The worst I know of is a guy I used to work with lost his testicles because he ignored pain and a lump which was cancer! He is lucky to still be alive.
- tajen 10y ago
  Are you suggesting men don't seek medical treatment therefore it's their fault for getting sick? Girls often don't want to become programmers, and, as I know it, we don't say "It's their fault". We just raise the issue and everyone is fighting to make them want to become programmers. It's way past time we apply the same reasoning to men's problems as women's problems. Males not seeking medical treatment could be because they're not aware of it (i.e. not enough funding for male diseases as female preventive programs). Or it could be because males are more suicidal about life, because they get the short end of the stick in pretty much all countries, despite the way it is framed in statistics, and we should equally fight for that. In any case, any statistics which leads to 6-year-shorter life expectancy denotes a very acute problem, for which funding should be given in equal level as for women's equality.
  - voidlogic 10y ago
    >Are you suggesting men don't seek medical treatment therefore it's their fault for getting sick? I made no attribution of fault... simply an alternative primary cause to the person I responded to.
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- jankotek 10y ago
  It does not contradict my statement. If they are less likely to seek medical treatment, they receive worse medical treatment (or no treatment at all).
  - loteck 10y ago
    Worse and less are two different things. One is a judgement of quality, the other a judgement of quantity.
    - Godel_unicode 10y ago
      Except when they're both required and neither is sufficient, as in this case. In preventative medicine, in order to have quality one must have quantity.
throwaway5752 10y ago
Too bad you didn't read the article! The work the scientists did led to much more interesting breakthroughs that that. I learned several new things (x-inactivation and the "EXITS" exceptions to the phenomenon).
- jankotek 10y ago
  I read the article, it has interesting findings, but it ignores some other issues.
  - throwaway5752 10y ago
    Yeah, but it's also a bit unfair for a recap of all of gender based differences in all-cause cancer epidemiology in an article about a specific breakthrough :)
cauterized 10y ago
On the flip side, studies have shown that women are less likely to be taken seriously when bringing a medical concern or complaint to a doctor. Which might suggest that women are under-diagnosed compared to men.
- kahrkunne 10y ago
  However personal experience tells me women are more likely to go to the doctor in the first place whereas men have more of a "it'll fix itself" attitude
- belorn 10y ago
  Recall a study done on psychologists (think it was done in Sweden). Men were significant less likely to be taken serious and admitted. However those few who are admitted are then taken more serious, and get more direct treatment than women. From a cultural perspective, men are viewed as always healthy, and in the exceptional case where its proven false then they are expected to be restored back to the norm. Women get the opposite cultural treatment, where they are easy accepted as sick but then the health system gives up and don't expect them to be able to be restored back.

voidlogic 10y ago

>Because men receive worse medical treatment. What about an alternative... Men are less likely to seek medical treatment?

thro1111111 10y ago
What about both? Because it is both. Source: I am a man.
satysin 10y ago
As a man myself it is pretty crazy to me how many men will ignore health problems to avoid going to the doctor. I am in the UK so it doesn't even cost me anything. Yet I have had male colleagues laugh/take the piss out of me for going to the doctor. Yet I think I am the only male in the office who doesn't have some kind of chronic (or close to it) condition at 32. It seems everyone at work has back pain or some other chronic pain because they ignored it when it could have been solved easily. Now some of them need surgery for trapped nerves or slipped discs but don't treat it still! Stupidity IMHO. The worst I know of is a guy I used to work with lost his testicles because he ignored pain and a lump which was cancer! He is lucky to still be alive.
tajen 10y ago
Are you suggesting men don't seek medical treatment therefore it's their fault for getting sick? Girls often don't want to become programmers, and, as I know it, we don't say "It's their fault". We just raise the issue and everyone is fighting to make them want to become programmers. It's way past time we apply the same reasoning to men's problems as women's problems. Males not seeking medical treatment could be because they're not aware of it (i.e. not enough funding for male diseases as female preventive programs). Or it could be because males are more suicidal about life, because they get the short end of the stick in pretty much all countries, despite the way it is framed in statistics, and we should equally fight for that. In any case, any statistics which leads to 6-year-shorter life expectancy denotes a very acute problem, for which funding should be given in equal level as for women's equality.
- voidlogic 10y ago
  >Are you suggesting men don't seek medical treatment therefore it's their fault for getting sick? I made no attribution of fault... simply an alternative primary cause to the person I responded to.
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jankotek 10y ago
It does not contradict my statement. If they are less likely to seek medical treatment, they receive worse medical treatment (or no treatment at all).
- loteck 10y ago
  Worse and less are two different things. One is a judgement of quality, the other a judgement of quantity.
  - Godel_unicode 10y ago
    Except when they're both required and neither is sufficient, as in this case. In preventative medicine, in order to have quality one must have quantity.

throwaway5752 10y ago

Too bad you didn't read the article! The work the scientists did led to much more interesting breakthroughs that that. I learned several new things (x-inactivation and the "EXITS" exceptions to the phenomenon).

jankotek 10y ago
I read the article, it has interesting findings, but it ignores some other issues.
- throwaway5752 10y ago
  Yeah, but it's also a bit unfair for a recap of all of gender based differences in all-cause cancer epidemiology in an article about a specific breakthrough :)

cauterized 10y ago

On the flip side, studies have shown that women are less likely to be taken seriously when bringing a medical concern or complaint to a doctor. Which might suggest that women are under-diagnosed compared to men.

kahrkunne 10y ago
However personal experience tells me women are more likely to go to the doctor in the first place whereas men have more of a "it'll fix itself" attitude
belorn 10y ago
Recall a study done on psychologists (think it was done in Sweden). Men were significant less likely to be taken serious and admitted. However those few who are admitted are then taken more serious, and get more direct treatment than women. From a cultural perspective, men are viewed as always healthy, and in the exceptional case where its proven false then they are expected to be restored back to the norm. Women get the opposite cultural treatment, where they are easy accepted as sick but then the health system gives up and don't expect them to be able to be restored back.