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It seems everything from the left has to have this faux "resistance" air to it. The truth is they are pushing the same narratives that the FBI, CIA, NSA, numero

It seems everything from the left has to have this faux "resistance" air to it. The truth is they are pushing the same narratives that the FBI, CIA, NSA, numerous billionaires, the majority of the media and the majority of the voting electorate push. Conservatism is the counter-culture movement now. It's like the left grew up and decided to become "the man" that they had railed against in my youth.

wtf_is_up 10y ago
They've lost Congress and the oval office and soon they will lose more Supreme Court seats. The only power they have left is obstuctionism though media, liberal judges a la 9th circuit, and Obama loyalists held over from the last administration. Will be interesting to see how the 2018 midterm elections go.
Tenhundfeld 10y ago
I hate talking about politics online, but I have to question this. The political party most aligned with conservatism currently controls 2/3 of the federal government and will most likely soon control the final 1/3. Do you honestly believe a movement can be counter-culture and control all branches of the federal government? I'm sorry, but that seems asinine to me.
- darkengine 10y ago
  The key word is counter-culture. The GOP may have the majority in federal government seats, but the majority of mainstream American media, and the overall position of the Overton window in general, is left of center at the moment. The cultural aspects of politics change slowly over time, and not overnight with a vote, as the status of the formal offices do.
  - Tenhundfeld 10y ago
    I guess it depends on what you think center is. I think the general culture, including mainstream media, is currently swung right of center. For example, the Affordable Care Act was essentially a copy of a plan originally put forth by Republicans, but now conservatives oppose it as some type of radical leftist socialism. The EPA was created by a Republican administration. Reagan granted amnesty to millions of undocumented immigrants. The Republican party has moved to the right and dragged the culture with it. I know it's easier to solicit donations and energize the base by pretending you're in some counter-culture fight against those powerful elites, but that is not the truth I see.
aamar 10y ago
Each side in this conflict has allies among members of the intelligence community, a billionaire or two, and powerful media outlets. Only one side in addition has control (imminently) of all three branches of the government and control over state legislatures where a majority of Americans live. It seems that disparity would tip the scales of which side is the 'resistance'? Anyway not much is resolved by figuring out which side is a resistance, trying to resolve it definitively is like resolving a kaleidoscope, which in turn makes one susceptible to superficial narratives or whims. Even iron-fisted Stalin could say he was really the underdog against global capitalism; nothing was gained by those who believed him. Much better to insist on interpreting who's in the right based on accuracy, principles, and consequences.
sitkack 10y ago
The right did a very deft Judo move, made themselves the oppressed, the dis-enfranchised and then mimed all of the lefts rhetorical technique right back it. The left is now the counter revolutionary that right wants to purge. The human race is insane.

wtf_is_up 10y ago

They've lost Congress and the oval office and soon they will lose more Supreme Court seats. The only power they have left is obstuctionism though media, liberal judges a la 9th circuit, and Obama loyalists held over from the last administration. Will be interesting to see how the 2018 midterm elections go.

Tenhundfeld 10y ago

I hate talking about politics online, but I have to question this. The political party most aligned with conservatism currently controls 2/3 of the federal government and will most likely soon control the final 1/3. Do you honestly believe a movement can be counter-culture and control all branches of the federal government? I'm sorry, but that seems asinine to me.

darkengine 10y ago
The key word is counter-culture. The GOP may have the majority in federal government seats, but the majority of mainstream American media, and the overall position of the Overton window in general, is left of center at the moment. The cultural aspects of politics change slowly over time, and not overnight with a vote, as the status of the formal offices do.
- Tenhundfeld 10y ago
  I guess it depends on what you think center is. I think the general culture, including mainstream media, is currently swung right of center. For example, the Affordable Care Act was essentially a copy of a plan originally put forth by Republicans, but now conservatives oppose it as some type of radical leftist socialism. The EPA was created by a Republican administration. Reagan granted amnesty to millions of undocumented immigrants. The Republican party has moved to the right and dragged the culture with it. I know it's easier to solicit donations and energize the base by pretending you're in some counter-culture fight against those powerful elites, but that is not the truth I see.

aamar 10y ago

Each side in this conflict has allies among members of the intelligence community, a billionaire or two, and powerful media outlets. Only one side in addition has control (imminently) of all three branches of the government and control over state legislatures where a majority of Americans live. It seems that disparity would tip the scales of which side is the 'resistance'? Anyway not much is resolved by figuring out which side is a resistance, trying to resolve it definitively is like resolving a kaleidoscope, which in turn makes one susceptible to superficial narratives or whims. Even iron-fisted Stalin could say he was really the underdog against global capitalism; nothing was gained by those who believed him. Much better to insist on interpreting who's in the right based on accuracy, principles, and consequences.

sitkack 10y ago

The right did a very deft Judo move, made themselves the oppressed, the dis-enfranchised and then mimed all of the lefts rhetorical technique right back it. The left is now the counter revolutionary that right wants to purge. The human race is insane.