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>Basically without Google colluding with NetFlix, we would still have a DRM-free web-standard. >Remember that next time you start up Chrome. You helped Google
by gribbly 10y ago
>Basically without Google colluding with NetFlix, we would still have a DRM-free web-standard.
>Remember that next time you start up Chrome. You helped Google do this.
For some reason you left out Microsoft who was also part of that gang who lobbied for EME... next time you boot windows and load up Edge, remember you helped Microsoft do this...
Of course the real demand for DRM comes from the content owners, aka Hollywood etc, who for some reason seem to think it has an effect on piracy, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
What does seem to have an effect on piracy is to give customers decent offers, like the netflix model, a fixed affordable fee that gives you access to a great library of content when you want it.
- chii 10y ago> like the netflix model, a fixed affordable fee if it's affordable, that means they aren't maximizing value extraction! Think of the unpaid dollars the company could've been receiving, if they only can charge as high as the consumer can afford!
- rz2k 10y agoThey're charging consumers as much as they can. There was a backlash when they tried to raise rates. They ended up without enough revenue to get the same catalog from content owners that were increasingly wary. I'd pay a few dollars more if I could expect any movie I looked for to be available, but other consumers disagree so I can't. Some of the in house entertainment they produced in response is good though.
- josteink 10y ago> For some reason you left out Microsoft who was also part of that gang who lobbied for EME. I left them out seeing as at the time they had less than 1% market-share. They did not represent the muscle or deciding-factor which caused Netflix to proceed as they did. And I did clearly not isolate Google as the sole responsible party. I said they were "one of" the enablers. All in all, I think my comment holds up well. > next time you boot windows and load up Edge Which is why I don't use Edge either. That was easy.
- squarefoot 10y ago>>Remember that next time you start up Chrome. You helped Google do this. > ... next time you boot windows and load up Edge, remember you helped Microsoft do this... Guys, let's keep in mind that the old days of the Google motto "don't be evil" are long gone. This isn't anymore a battle between good corporations and evil corporations. It's corporations on one side - all of them, including Google - wanting to maximize their profits (which is reasonable) at the cost of reducing people's freedoms (which is not), and common people here.
- manigandham 10y agoHow are your freedoms being reduced by DRM?
- candiodari 10y agoAre you joking ?
- manigandham 10y agoNo. DRM is just rights management. Content providers are free to provide content with whatever conditions they want and you're free to react in whatever way you want, including not viewing the content. No freedoms have been harmed. Saying that they have doesn't make sense.
- candiodari 10y agohttps://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html Assuming DRM restrictions match, and always grant, actual legal rights, you'd be right. For instance, you should be able to break DRM to exercise your legal rights, such as education, quoting, ... In practice, you couldn't be more wrong. For instance, please show me how DRM would allow me to quote a DRM protected video stream and replay it in court because, for instance, I was personally defamed in said video stream. Or I want to use a Disney movie scene in a video editor to include short quotes in an online course about storytelling. That won't work without the DRM being broken entirely off at my request, but it is my legal right. What you're saying is a bit like pointing out that every homeless man has the right to do anything Donald Trump or Bill Gates are allowed to do. In theory, yes.