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I don't really care whether it's legal. It's just a bad idea, morally and realistically. Alienating people is what turns them into terrorists. To paraphrase

I don't really care whether it's legal. It's just a bad idea, morally and realistically. Alienating people is what turns them into terrorists. To paraphrase a line from "Legally Blonde" (I know I'm really helping my case here), "Happy people just don't kill people, they just don't." I don't know if Trump doesn't understand this or if he really does understand it and wants another terrorist attack on the US so he can gain more power.

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SnowFace 10y ago
I don't think alienation or happiness is the root cause here. Many radical Islamic terrorists are extremely happy when the kill, believing they will be rewarded for eternity. We also see seemingly well-adjusted educated westerners leaving Europe to become ISIS members. I'm not an expert in Islam, but my overall take is that the Koran, because it's believed to be the actual word of God, allows followers to take it more literally than other religions. Of course, not all do, but many also do and don't act on it, as we see from the Pew studies.
- tptacek 10y ago
  Nobody benefits from these kinds of casual, uninformed analyses of major world religions on HN, least of all anyone hoping for thoughtful discussion. The point at which you wrote "I'm not an expert in Islam" probably should have been where you rethought this whole comment.
  - Chris2048 10y ago
    No one on HN benefits from your biases either, tptacek. You aren't an expert a lot of things, are you going to stop airing your political views?
graycat 10y ago
I wrote out a good response for you, complete with headings and subheadings, but it is 11,800 bytes long which is too long for HN. Net, there is a lot of confusion on this subject, and I can't clear it all up quickly here.
- mercer 10y ago
  You could post it on pastebin or some other service and give us the link to that maybe?
  - graycat 10y ago
    I've never used pastebin. I'm not really against putting a copy of the 11,000+ bytes in some public place, but I'm wondering if anyone would be much interested. Tell me a little about pastebin, and I will try.

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SnowFace 10y ago

I don't think alienation or happiness is the root cause here. Many radical Islamic terrorists are extremely happy when the kill, believing they will be rewarded for eternity. We also see seemingly well-adjusted educated westerners leaving Europe to become ISIS members. I'm not an expert in Islam, but my overall take is that the Koran, because it's believed to be the actual word of God, allows followers to take it more literally than other religions. Of course, not all do, but many also do and don't act on it, as we see from the Pew studies.

tptacek 10y ago
Nobody benefits from these kinds of casual, uninformed analyses of major world religions on HN, least of all anyone hoping for thoughtful discussion. The point at which you wrote "I'm not an expert in Islam" probably should have been where you rethought this whole comment.
- Chris2048 10y ago
  No one on HN benefits from your biases either, tptacek. You aren't an expert a lot of things, are you going to stop airing your political views?

graycat 10y ago

I wrote out a good response for you, complete with headings and subheadings, but it is 11,800 bytes long which is too long for HN. Net, there is a lot of confusion on this subject, and I can't clear it all up quickly here.

mercer 10y ago
You could post it on pastebin or some other service and give us the link to that maybe?
- graycat 10y ago
  I've never used pastebin. I'm not really against putting a copy of the 11,000+ bytes in some public place, but I'm wondering if anyone would be much interested. Tell me a little about pastebin, and I will try.