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>With those speeds 5G could be an alternative/replacement for cable/DSL for home internet access. Though 3/4G already is, it's what many people use instead of

>With those speeds 5G could be an alternative/replacement for cable/DSL for home internet access. Though 3/4G already is, it's what many people use instead of wired internet here (Finland) and it's often marketed as such. I rarely get under 25mbps in our clubroom that only has 4G internet access.

bogomipz 10y ago
Wow so carriers have really built out their networks in Finland it sounds like. I think this is probably true of all the Nordics no? There are no caps on your 4G? I am curious are you using a mobile router? My experience with these has been that there were data caps attached to them and the plan, as opposed to a 4G unlimited plan on my phone.
- mstade 10y ago
  I can't speak for Finland, but in Sweden I don't think there are any plans with unlimited data anymore, that weren't grandfathered. There used to be when 3G was the norm, but now that 4G is available pretty much everywhere you'll be capped most likely. My plan for instance is capped at 100gb I believe, for which I pay about 500-600 SEK / month. (This includes all domestic voice and texts too.)
  - ptaipale 10y ago
    In Finland 4G data contracts tend to be limitless. I pay 30 € per month for a package of 2 SIM cards which both have unlimited 4G data (no voice or SMS services packed in). The other one for a pad, the other one is my home's fixed network with appliances and WLAN connected. I'm not entirely happy with current operator, though; I used to get 15 Mbit/s downlink but now it's often 3 Mbit/s at home, which is not enough. I might switch operator. (At work I get 25 Mbit/s with the pad so the limit is clearly in poor coverage of operator DNA in my residential area, at work it is OK.)
  - paglia_s 10y ago
    that's 52-62€ or 56-67 dollars
  - e12e 10y ago
    Sigh. And in Norway the highest "off the shelf" cap is 200gb/month at ~800 NOK :/ I'm not clear what the providers think the future will be - even 200gb is a tight fit for streaming 1080p video, never mind 4k or 8k hdr. Looks like they'll continue to drag their feet with fiber, and continue to spend on dsl while struggling to get people to commit to 4g (because at current price/datacap/coverage it doesn't really make sense). Or maybe it's the electronics dealers that will take the hit because lossy 720p doesn't look any better on a 4/8k screen...
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- kogepathic 10y ago
  > Wow so carriers have really built out their networks in Finland it sounds like. There are no caps on your 4G? Not Finnish but have lots of Finnish friends. They pay for the speed of the service, not data transfer. [0] So for example you would pay to have a SIM card with 10MBit/s, 20MBit/s, 30MBit/s, etc. They're always horrified to hear that we have data caps in Germany. At least here if you exceed your cap they just throttle you to 2G speeds. Interestingly, it seems that Finland mobile subscribers use more data than the average German fixed line subscriber. [1] In Canada if you exceed the cap the carrier starts charging you exorbitant amounts of money per GB (on to of the already insane monthly cost of the plan). [0] http://dfmonitor.eu/insights/2016_may_finland_mobile_data_usage_overtakes_germany_fbb/ http://dfmonitor.eu/insights/2016_may_finland_mobile_data_us... [1] https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/finnish-like-unlimited-mobile-data-model-now-europe-pal-zarandy https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/finnish-like-unlimited-mobile...

bogomipz 10y ago

Wow so carriers have really built out their networks in Finland it sounds like. I think this is probably true of all the Nordics no? There are no caps on your 4G? I am curious are you using a mobile router? My experience with these has been that there were data caps attached to them and the plan, as opposed to a 4G unlimited plan on my phone.

mstade 10y ago
I can't speak for Finland, but in Sweden I don't think there are any plans with unlimited data anymore, that weren't grandfathered. There used to be when 3G was the norm, but now that 4G is available pretty much everywhere you'll be capped most likely. My plan for instance is capped at 100gb I believe, for which I pay about 500-600 SEK / month. (This includes all domestic voice and texts too.)
- ptaipale 10y ago
  In Finland 4G data contracts tend to be limitless. I pay 30 € per month for a package of 2 SIM cards which both have unlimited 4G data (no voice or SMS services packed in). The other one for a pad, the other one is my home's fixed network with appliances and WLAN connected. I'm not entirely happy with current operator, though; I used to get 15 Mbit/s downlink but now it's often 3 Mbit/s at home, which is not enough. I might switch operator. (At work I get 25 Mbit/s with the pad so the limit is clearly in poor coverage of operator DNA in my residential area, at work it is OK.)
- paglia_s 10y ago
  that's 52-62€ or 56-67 dollars
- e12e 10y ago
  Sigh. And in Norway the highest "off the shelf" cap is 200gb/month at ~800 NOK :/ I'm not clear what the providers think the future will be - even 200gb is a tight fit for streaming 1080p video, never mind 4k or 8k hdr. Looks like they'll continue to drag their feet with fiber, and continue to spend on dsl while struggling to get people to commit to 4g (because at current price/datacap/coverage it doesn't really make sense). Or maybe it's the electronics dealers that will take the hit because lossy 720p doesn't look any better on a 4/8k screen...
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kogepathic 10y ago
> Wow so carriers have really built out their networks in Finland it sounds like. There are no caps on your 4G? Not Finnish but have lots of Finnish friends. They pay for the speed of the service, not data transfer. [0] So for example you would pay to have a SIM card with 10MBit/s, 20MBit/s, 30MBit/s, etc. They're always horrified to hear that we have data caps in Germany. At least here if you exceed your cap they just throttle you to 2G speeds. Interestingly, it seems that Finland mobile subscribers use more data than the average German fixed line subscriber. [1] In Canada if you exceed the cap the carrier starts charging you exorbitant amounts of money per GB (on to of the already insane monthly cost of the plan). [0] http://dfmonitor.eu/insights/2016_may_finland_mobile_data_usage_overtakes_germany_fbb/ http://dfmonitor.eu/insights/2016_may_finland_mobile_data_us... [1] https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/finnish-like-unlimited-mobile-data-model-now-europe-pal-zarandy https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/finnish-like-unlimited-mobile...