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The political correctness statement is so spot on. I still struggle with that till now. People just don't want to talk about certain issues here it seems; a sta

by anonyguy1969 10y ago

The political correctness statement is so spot on. I still struggle with that till now. People just don't want to talk about certain issues here it seems; a stark contrast to europeans

sqrt 10y ago
They didn't mention political correctness, though...?
- cpburns2009 10y ago
  Political correctness was mentioned in the article: > Typical campus discourse is often a minefield for newcomers, said a Norwegian student. “I find that Americans are generally very politically correct, and as a European, I think I’m used to being blunter and saying things right out. ..."
  - chillacy 10y ago
    Politeness too. There are some cultures which are extremely blunt, no diplomacy or being indirect. For instance just going into a meeting and saying that someone's idea is dumb and they should do it X way instead. Most americans I know perceive this as "being a dick", but this is pretty normal discourse where they come from.
    - gragas 10y ago
      That sounds so much better.
      - chillacy 10y ago
        I'm still not used to it, but I can see the appeal. Try working with Germans or especially Israelis
rpearl 10y ago
Give an example.
- nostrebored 10y ago
  Questioning liberal ideas in a liberal place; try asking a question about anything related to gender, "born this way" narratives, third wave feminism, and you will be called a bigot. I'm not even talking about making an assertion here; asking a question about these politics sparks huge responses in people.
  - wavefunction 10y ago
    I am a radical leftist and I have my complaints about gender identity politics and third wave feminism. I think you're confident about the world as you consider it to be, rather than how it actually is.
  - rpearl 10y ago
    You're being super vague so I cannot give a good response. If you treat people as people, assume good faith, and ask genuine questions you'll be treated just fine. I rarely find people on the conservative side of the political spectrum are actually interested in doing that, because they don't act like they think of gender non-conforming people as people. They might, but they certainly don't act that way. I'm gratified where I'm proven wrong, but such people are few and far between.
    - saint_fiasco 10y ago
      You expect to be proven wrong, which means you put the burden of proof on them, which combined with miscellaneous linguistic and cultural barriers might make foreigners seem more sexist than they really are.
- saint_fiasco 10y ago
  Money. Asking an American how much they earn or how much they paid for something can be perceived as rude.
monksy 10y ago
Ignore it. It's only important in the professional setting (where theres a personal risk). Otherwise, in social situations, people who are sensitive towards it are holding others hostage to it. You're only a hostage if you allow it.

The political correctness statement is so spot on. I still struggle with that till now. People just don't want to talk about certain issues here it seems; a stark contrast to europeans

sqrt 10y ago

They didn't mention political correctness, though...?

cpburns2009 10y ago
Political correctness was mentioned in the article: > Typical campus discourse is often a minefield for newcomers, said a Norwegian student. “I find that Americans are generally very politically correct, and as a European, I think I’m used to being blunter and saying things right out. ..."
- chillacy 10y ago
  Politeness too. There are some cultures which are extremely blunt, no diplomacy or being indirect. For instance just going into a meeting and saying that someone's idea is dumb and they should do it X way instead. Most americans I know perceive this as "being a dick", but this is pretty normal discourse where they come from.
  - gragas 10y ago
    That sounds so much better.
    - chillacy 10y ago
      I'm still not used to it, but I can see the appeal. Try working with Germans or especially Israelis

rpearl 10y ago

Give an example.

nostrebored 10y ago
Questioning liberal ideas in a liberal place; try asking a question about anything related to gender, "born this way" narratives, third wave feminism, and you will be called a bigot. I'm not even talking about making an assertion here; asking a question about these politics sparks huge responses in people.
- wavefunction 10y ago
  I am a radical leftist and I have my complaints about gender identity politics and third wave feminism. I think you're confident about the world as you consider it to be, rather than how it actually is.
- rpearl 10y ago
  You're being super vague so I cannot give a good response. If you treat people as people, assume good faith, and ask genuine questions you'll be treated just fine. I rarely find people on the conservative side of the political spectrum are actually interested in doing that, because they don't act like they think of gender non-conforming people as people. They might, but they certainly don't act that way. I'm gratified where I'm proven wrong, but such people are few and far between.
  - saint_fiasco 10y ago
    You expect to be proven wrong, which means you put the burden of proof on them, which combined with miscellaneous linguistic and cultural barriers might make foreigners seem more sexist than they really are.
saint_fiasco 10y ago
Money. Asking an American how much they earn or how much they paid for something can be perceived as rude.

monksy 10y ago

Ignore it. It's only important in the professional setting (where theres a personal risk). Otherwise, in social situations, people who are sensitive towards it are holding others hostage to it. You're only a hostage if you allow it.