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I guess no one here reads https://blog.fefe.de/ https://blog.fefe.de/ It's the only page you can read on a GPRS connection (http) and you can literally see eve

I guess no one here reads https://blog.fefe.de/ https://blog.fefe.de/ It's the only page you can read on a GPRS connection (http) and you can literally see every packet as it's transmitted, because the page is rendered bit by bit.

sbierwagen 10y ago
and you can literally see every packet as it's transmitted, because the page is rendered bit by bit. Beg pardon?
- morsch 10y ago
  Presumably he's talking about incremental rendering[1], though I couldn't get it to work on Fefes Blog by manually throttling using the dev tools. It's pure, unstyled HTML -- you could read the site by piping curl into less -- and it should easily render incrementally; I'm just not sure how well it works when you use gzip and TLS (and I couldn't not use TLS when I just tried). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incremental_rendering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incremental_rendering
tristor 10y ago
Is there a way to slow it down on fast connections and or a video of this? I have an academic interest and am curious how they did this, but don't have an easy way to demonstrate it to myself as I don't currently have a connection slow enough that it doesn't render instantaneously.
- morsch 10y ago
  Both Firefox[1] and Chrome[2] (and, presumably, Safari and Edge?) have a network throttle in their dev tools. Apart from that, you can use OS level throttling, e.g. Network Link Conditioner[3] for OS X. Couldn't see any incremental rendering on Fefes Blog though. [1] https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2016/11/07/simulate-slow-connections-with-the-network-throttling-tool/ https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2016/11/07/simulate-slow-co... [2] https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/network-performance/network-conditions https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/netw... [3] http://nshipster.com/network-link-conditioner/ http://nshipster.com/network-link-conditioner/ (We use this to throttle Websocket transmissions, which, last I checked, the browser devmode throttles don't apply to.)
- Cozumel 10y ago
  You can throttle your connection in Chrome developer tools.
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dualogy 10y ago
Even offers CSS theming: https://blog.fefe.de/?css=fefe-gut.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=fefe-gut.css (compare to without!)
snackai 10y ago
Nice to see you already posted fefes blog, seriously everytime someone states he has the fastest xyz -> fefe is quicker.
igk 10y ago
I think you underestimate the amount of Germans on here

sbierwagen 10y ago

and you can literally see every packet as it's transmitted, because the page is rendered bit by bit. Beg pardon?

morsch 10y ago
Presumably he's talking about incremental rendering[1], though I couldn't get it to work on Fefes Blog by manually throttling using the dev tools. It's pure, unstyled HTML -- you could read the site by piping curl into less -- and it should easily render incrementally; I'm just not sure how well it works when you use gzip and TLS (and I couldn't not use TLS when I just tried). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incremental_rendering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incremental_rendering

tristor 10y ago

Is there a way to slow it down on fast connections and or a video of this? I have an academic interest and am curious how they did this, but don't have an easy way to demonstrate it to myself as I don't currently have a connection slow enough that it doesn't render instantaneously.

morsch 10y ago
Both Firefox[1] and Chrome[2] (and, presumably, Safari and Edge?) have a network throttle in their dev tools. Apart from that, you can use OS level throttling, e.g. Network Link Conditioner[3] for OS X. Couldn't see any incremental rendering on Fefes Blog though. [1] https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2016/11/07/simulate-slow-connections-with-the-network-throttling-tool/ https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2016/11/07/simulate-slow-co... [2] https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/network-performance/network-conditions https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/netw... [3] http://nshipster.com/network-link-conditioner/ http://nshipster.com/network-link-conditioner/ (We use this to throttle Websocket transmissions, which, last I checked, the browser devmode throttles don't apply to.)
Cozumel 10y ago
You can throttle your connection in Chrome developer tools.

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dualogy 10y ago

Even offers CSS theming: https://blog.fefe.de/?css=fefe-gut.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=fefe-gut.css (compare to without!)

snackai 10y ago

Nice to see you already posted fefes blog, seriously everytime someone states he has the fastest xyz -> fefe is quicker.

igk 10y ago

I think you underestimate the amount of Germans on here