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Some feedback on the website: IMO, it's obnoxious and disrespectful to play full screen video like you're doing. That just made me close it immediately and leav

Some feedback on the website: IMO, it's obnoxious and disrespectful to play full screen video like you're doing. That just made me close it immediately and leave after reading through the text. Considering the complexity involved in developing a an advanced IDE or similar, have you considered publishing an open source community version? Similar to JetBrain with IntelliJ. They seem to be doing great. Since we're on the subject of experimental UI concepts, I'll plug Bret Victor's Inventing on Principle [0] talk. For me it was an instant classic. [0] https://vimeo.com/36579366 https://vimeo.com/36579366

Naeron 10y ago
Actually more like Stop Drawing Dead Fish by Bret Victor: https://vimeo.com/64895205 https://vimeo.com/64895205 He is my hero actually :)
Naeron 10y ago
There is an alternative non-fullscreen link available but Amazon CloudFront cache hasn't been updated yet.
- shadowmint 10y ago
  It's just a youtube video: https://youtu.be/Gy5m091fOTU https://youtu.be/Gy5m091fOTU
IshKebab 10y ago
I actually disagree about the fullscreen video. Why would I ever want to watch video not fullscreen? Vimeo also behaves like this on mobile and it's far superior to Youtube, which often totally hides the fullscreen button.
- fnord123 10y ago
  >Why would I ever want to watch video not fullscreen? Because you're doing other stuff while listening to the audio. >Youtube, which often totally hides the fullscreen button. It's in the bottom right.
  - Throwaway23412 10y ago
    >It's in the bottom right. Not in OP's video. There's literally no way to escape the full-screen without pressing the escape key. You can't even double-click. I'm actually impressed by how user-hostile that video is.
- mastazi 10y ago
  > Why would I ever want to watch video not fullscreen? Because the way they are doing it there is no minimize button. A less technically inclined person may not know that they have to press Escape (and now, it seems, some laptops have no hardware Esc button at all). In addition, the first time I played it, for some reason, Esc did not work and I had to Alt-Tab in order to leave the video.
  - dkersten 10y ago
    I didn't check what this looks like on mobile, but I do the majority of my browsing on an iPad and while I use a physical keyboard with it, it doesn't have an escape button. Presumably, this would use the usual mobile video player though, which does have a minimise button, so its likely not a real issue (I'm not on iPad right now so didn't check).
- deleted 10y ago
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immigrantsheep 10y ago
Why does EVERYTHING have to be opensource these days to be considered acceptable?
- TuringTest 10y ago
  Because with open source software: - You can run the program as you wish, for any purpose. - You can study how the program works, and change it so it does what you want. - You can redistribute unmodified copies without fear of the publiher suing you. - You can distribute copies of your modified versions to others without fear of the publiher suing you. Who wouldn't want to have all that in a tool that will be the basis for your own projects?
  - immigrantsheep 10y ago
    I understand when we're talking about crypto or security. You want your data to be safe. You want to know that it is what they're selling. But this? A guy is building something that might be cool one day. One should he make his engine/IDE opensource? He can but doesn't have to. I don't see people screaming why SublimeText, AbletonLive, Photoshop or many other tools aren't open source. There is still that thing called commercial software and some people make a living out of it.
    - TuringTest 10y ago
      SublimeText, AbletonLive or Photoshops are not platforms where you create an automated software artifact that runs on top of the tool. On top of a programming language, however, you depend on the tool being always available without major changes for as long as you need it to remain stable. This is not guaranteed on a privative development platform. They are simply not in the same class of products at all. In all your three examples, the product they create is detached from the creation platform before release, and that product (text, music, images) is compiled/played/displayed on a different application; an also there are many alternative tools where the product could be processed if the original tool ceased to exist. So there's no fear with those that, if the tool creator begins imposing more and more restrictions, you'll be locked-in. But a unique programming language for which your code can't possibly be ported to a competing platform? One would be stupid to develop for it anything requiring ongoing commercial support, beyond some cool tech demos.

Naeron 10y ago

Actually more like Stop Drawing Dead Fish by Bret Victor: https://vimeo.com/64895205 https://vimeo.com/64895205 He is my hero actually :)

Naeron 10y ago

There is an alternative non-fullscreen link available but Amazon CloudFront cache hasn't been updated yet.

shadowmint 10y ago
It's just a youtube video: https://youtu.be/Gy5m091fOTU https://youtu.be/Gy5m091fOTU

IshKebab 10y ago

I actually disagree about the fullscreen video. Why would I ever want to watch video not fullscreen? Vimeo also behaves like this on mobile and it's far superior to Youtube, which often totally hides the fullscreen button.

fnord123 10y ago
>Why would I ever want to watch video not fullscreen? Because you're doing other stuff while listening to the audio. >Youtube, which often totally hides the fullscreen button. It's in the bottom right.
- Throwaway23412 10y ago
  >It's in the bottom right. Not in OP's video. There's literally no way to escape the full-screen without pressing the escape key. You can't even double-click. I'm actually impressed by how user-hostile that video is.
mastazi 10y ago
> Why would I ever want to watch video not fullscreen? Because the way they are doing it there is no minimize button. A less technically inclined person may not know that they have to press Escape (and now, it seems, some laptops have no hardware Esc button at all). In addition, the first time I played it, for some reason, Esc did not work and I had to Alt-Tab in order to leave the video.
- dkersten 10y ago
  I didn't check what this looks like on mobile, but I do the majority of my browsing on an iPad and while I use a physical keyboard with it, it doesn't have an escape button. Presumably, this would use the usual mobile video player though, which does have a minimise button, so its likely not a real issue (I'm not on iPad right now so didn't check).
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immigrantsheep 10y ago

Why does EVERYTHING have to be opensource these days to be considered acceptable?

TuringTest 10y ago
Because with open source software: - You can run the program as you wish, for any purpose. - You can study how the program works, and change it so it does what you want. - You can redistribute unmodified copies without fear of the publiher suing you. - You can distribute copies of your modified versions to others without fear of the publiher suing you. Who wouldn't want to have all that in a tool that will be the basis for your own projects?
- immigrantsheep 10y ago
  I understand when we're talking about crypto or security. You want your data to be safe. You want to know that it is what they're selling. But this? A guy is building something that might be cool one day. One should he make his engine/IDE opensource? He can but doesn't have to. I don't see people screaming why SublimeText, AbletonLive, Photoshop or many other tools aren't open source. There is still that thing called commercial software and some people make a living out of it.
  - TuringTest 10y ago
    SublimeText, AbletonLive or Photoshops are not platforms where you create an automated software artifact that runs on top of the tool. On top of a programming language, however, you depend on the tool being always available without major changes for as long as you need it to remain stable. This is not guaranteed on a privative development platform. They are simply not in the same class of products at all. In all your three examples, the product they create is detached from the creation platform before release, and that product (text, music, images) is compiled/played/displayed on a different application; an also there are many alternative tools where the product could be processed if the original tool ceased to exist. So there's no fear with those that, if the tool creator begins imposing more and more restrictions, you'll be locked-in. But a unique programming language for which your code can't possibly be ported to a competing platform? One would be stupid to develop for it anything requiring ongoing commercial support, beyond some cool tech demos.