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For what it's worth, the author mentioned that CSS Flexbox would also work, but the market share of IE 9 was too high at the time for him to use. That was 2014,

For what it's worth, the author mentioned that CSS Flexbox would also work, but the market share of IE 9 was too high at the time for him to use. That was 2014, and now the market share of IE (especially IE 9) is drastically lower. https://www.w3counter.com/trends https://www.w3counter.com/trends http://caniuse.com/#feat=flexbox http://caniuse.com/#feat=flexbox

blueside 10y ago
depending on your audience, most of the time you still can't use flexbox today due to ie9/10. it's really something that after all these years, in 2017, microsoft browsers still find a way to hold back web features.
- crocodileJS 10y ago
  What audience is that? Who are these people relevant to? Microsoft isn't holding back anything, they can't force these people to update their software. If everyone keeps supporting them, they never will have a reason to update.
  - enraged_camel 10y ago
    Government is one such audience. The K-12 system is another.
    - crocodileJS 10y ago
      Is that really true? You'd think that the government has security provisions that requires software updates. As for K-12, is that really a requirement in some places, or is it just the case that some clients just happen to not be updated?
      - gsnedders 10y ago
        IE9 gets security updates on Vista SP2. More generally IE9 and IE10 are both still supported by Microsoft (for Vista SP2, Server 2008 SP, Server 2008 IA64; and for Server 2012, and Embedded 8 Standard), so it seems entirely plausible Microsoft would sell security updates for other OSes to clients willing to pay for them; they definitely do that for some clients (some still get security updates for XP!).
        sljd 10y ago
        These outdated OSes have a tiny market share, and more importantly, an organization that prevents sw installation doesn't use outdated OSes. Others can install Firefox even on XP. Old Androids and IPhones are a bigger issue.
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- Touche 10y ago
  There's a polyfill that works well enough.

blueside 10y ago

depending on your audience, most of the time you still can't use flexbox today due to ie9/10. it's really something that after all these years, in 2017, microsoft browsers still find a way to hold back web features.

crocodileJS 10y ago
What audience is that? Who are these people relevant to? Microsoft isn't holding back anything, they can't force these people to update their software. If everyone keeps supporting them, they never will have a reason to update.
- enraged_camel 10y ago
  Government is one such audience. The K-12 system is another.
  - crocodileJS 10y ago
    Is that really true? You'd think that the government has security provisions that requires software updates. As for K-12, is that really a requirement in some places, or is it just the case that some clients just happen to not be updated?
    - gsnedders 10y ago
      IE9 gets security updates on Vista SP2. More generally IE9 and IE10 are both still supported by Microsoft (for Vista SP2, Server 2008 SP, Server 2008 IA64; and for Server 2012, and Embedded 8 Standard), so it seems entirely plausible Microsoft would sell security updates for other OSes to clients willing to pay for them; they definitely do that for some clients (some still get security updates for XP!).
      - sljd 10y ago
        These outdated OSes have a tiny market share, and more importantly, an organization that prevents sw installation doesn't use outdated OSes. Others can install Firefox even on XP. Old Androids and IPhones are a bigger issue.
- deleted 10y ago
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Touche 10y ago
There's a polyfill that works well enough.