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I wish once people realised this, they had the courage to apply this to their own dearly held beliefs, particularly political or social ones - how many of those
by lacampbell 10y ago
I wish once people realised this, they had the courage to apply this to their own dearly held beliefs, particularly political or social ones - how many of those are just lies repeated ad nauseum that clearly aren't true?
But I think most peoples reaction is just to say "Yeah! that's totally what those other people do that our side never does because we're right.".
- dilemma 10y agoHave you applied it to your own beliefs? Which ones? Do you no longer believe in them?
- lacampbell 10y agoI have. I'm not going to mention which ones as that would cheapen the general message, which is bigger than politics. And yes, I no longer believe them.
- xapata 10y agoNo it wouldn't cheapen the message, it would illustrate it. I'm also curious which ones.
- gramstrong 10y agoI've got two for you, from both sides: "Fake News" and "Muslim Ban".
- aptwebapps 10y ago'Cheapen' might not be the right word but it wouldn't certainly tend to hijack it. As soon as you get specific people start debating the specifics.
- xapata 10y agoThe devil is in the details.
- dilemma 10y agoWhat about your current beliefs? Why not apply it to them too?
- novalis78 10y agoTriangulation. Take in news sources from opposite sides of the political (scientific etc) spectrum and take them all in in equal size/depth. They'll repeat their own message to make you believe you are "on the right side of the issue" but with triangulation both brainwashing attempts cancel out.
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- cryoshon 10y ago>But I think most peoples reaction is just to say "Yeah! that's totally what those other people do that our side never does because we're right.". to guard against this, as soon as i am aware of a catchphrase or common talking point, i mentally deconstruct it and find the truth. frighteningly, the most commonly repeated verbiages are, should we say, misleading. but lean a little closer, stranger, and i'll whisper the truth into your ear: the "two sides" are unequal in their abilities for evaluative thought, self righteous zealotry, and dogmatism. an honest attempt at critical evaluation will go nowhere if your evaluating apparatus is garbage.
- cgriswald 10y ago> but lean a little closer, stranger, and i'll whisper the truth into your ear: the "two sides" are unequal in their abilities for evaluative thought, self righteous zealotry, and dogmatism. an honest attempt at critical evaluation will go nowhere if your evaluating apparatus is garbage. The very fact that both sides are convinced there are two sides suggests this is a false statement. The "sides", really the false divisions and classifications, are some of the biggest lies ever told. In any case, any inequality between them is not the problem. By way of analogy, if two glasses of water have unequal amounts of fecal matter with neither being even close to zero, wouldn't it be better not to drink either of them rather than suggest one is better than the other?
- cryoshon 10y agoin reality there area bajillion sides. it's just an easy construct that people will understand at least two of those.
- chillwaves 10y agoWe have two political parties in the United States. Do you believe the voters for each side are at parity in their ability to understand reality? Do you believe it is helpful to suggest people choose neither?
- astrange 10y ago
- desireco42 10y agoOnce you do, you no longer look at the world the same, but also don't have in common with majority of the people. It is a little bit like waking up from Matrix. :)